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From: James J <james.j@shiftmail.org>
To: Dark Penguin <darkpenguin@yandex.ru>,
	linux-raid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: md failing mechanism
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 00:40:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A2BDF7.7020101@shiftmail.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56A2A2C3.9000801@yandex.ru>

On 22/01/2016 22:44, Dark Penguin wrote:
>
> As I understand, one way around this problem is to change the kernel 
> timeout to exceed the drive timeout by changing 
> /sys/block/sd?/device/timeout to something larger than the default 30, 
> but I'd have to do that after every reboot, is all that correct?
>

No, this part needs further investigation and comments from the gurus.

With a SCSI timeout 30 secs, which is the setting you had at the time of 
the incident AFAIU, what should have happened was that the drive should 
have been kicked out at the 30th second, this is BEFORE it had a chance 
to return a read failure because your desktop drive takes more than 
30secs to return a read failure. This was what you indeed expected but 
it is not what has happened.

The recommentation of raising the timeout to 120+ is for the opposite 
purpose of what you want. It is for the case the sysadmin accepts to 
wait a long time because he wants to prevent the kicking of the drive at 
the first read-error (normally drives are kicked for a write error). 
This might be wanted in order to a) defer the replacement of the drive, 
either to perform the replacement at a more opportune time and/or in a 
better manner such as a no-degrade replace operation, or b) because he 
does not want to replace the drive at all: maybe he believes that the 
error might be spurious and will not happen again and the drive is still 
of acceptable fitness for the purpose, e.g. in a low-cost file server.

So what happened is still wrong AFAIK, in the sense of a kernel bug.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-22 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-22 17:59 md failing mechanism Dark Penguin
2016-01-22 19:29 ` Phil Turmel
2016-01-22 20:00   ` Wols Lists
2016-01-22 21:44   ` Dark Penguin
2016-01-22 22:18     ` Phil Turmel
2016-01-22 22:50       ` Dark Penguin
2016-01-22 23:23         ` Edward Kuns
2016-01-22 23:34       ` Wols Lists
2016-01-23  0:09         ` Dark Penguin
2016-01-22 22:37     ` Edward Kuns
2016-01-22 23:07       ` Dark Penguin
2016-01-22 23:39         ` Wols Lists
2016-01-23  0:09           ` Dark Penguin
2016-01-23  0:34         ` Phil Turmel
2016-01-23 10:33           ` Dark Penguin
2016-01-23 15:12             ` Phil Turmel
2016-01-22 23:40     ` James J [this message]
2016-01-23  0:44       ` Phil Turmel
2016-01-23 14:09       ` Wols Lists
2016-01-23 19:02         ` James J
2016-01-24 22:13           ` Adam Goryachev

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