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From: Roland <devzero@web.de>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: status of bugzilla #99171 - mdraid broken for O_DIRECT
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 22:08:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f25dea4-41f6-4bf2-aeed-deb9d8c76e29@web.de> (raw)

Hello,

as proxmox hypervisor does not offer mdadm software raid at installation
time because of this bugticket

"MD RAID or DRBD can be broken from userspace when using O_DIRECT"
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99171

i tried to find some more references besides the kernel bugzilla entry -
and  - besides some discussion in the proxmox community - i did not succeed.

why is this apparent fundamental design flaw (should we call it that?)
so damn unknown ?

and what about O_DIRECT with other software raid solutions like btrfs or
zfs ?

how/why do they right but not mdraid ?  the latter exists for much
longer time and afaik is offered as install-time option for RHEL
(enterprise linux) for example, where people use oracle on top - which
IS using O_DIRECT very often/likely.

not accusing anyone - just being curious why totally unknown/unpopular
bugticket #99171 bitrots for nearly a decade now...

regards
Roland

Sysadmin

ps:
also see "qemu cache=none should not be used with mdadm"
https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5235


             reply	other threads:[~2024-10-09 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-09 20:08 Roland [this message]
2024-10-09 21:38 ` status of bugzilla #99171 - mdraid broken for O_DIRECT Reindl Harald
2024-10-10  6:53   ` Hannes Reinecke
2024-10-10  7:29     ` Roland
2024-10-10  8:34       ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-10-11 19:25         ` Roland
2025-10-13  6:48           ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-10-13 19:06             ` Roland
     [not found]             ` <6fb3e2cb-8eeb-4e76-9364-16348d807784@web.de>
2025-10-14  6:31               ` Hannes Reinecke
     [not found] <A4168F21-4CDF-4BAD-8754-30BAA1315C6F@web.de>
2025-10-14 20:14 ` Roland
2025-10-15  6:56   ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-10-15 23:09     ` Roland
2025-10-16  6:02       ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-10-17 20:18         ` Roland
2025-10-20  6:44           ` Hannes Reinecke

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