From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: Guy Watkins <linux-raid@watkins-home.com>
Cc: 'Piergiorgio Sartor' <piergiorgio.sartor@nexgo.de>,
'Neil Brown' <neilb@suse.de>,
'Peter Rabbitson' <rabbit+list@rabbit.us>,
'Goswin von Brederlow' <goswin-v-b@web.de>,
'Doug Ledford' <dledford@redhat.com>,
'Michael Evans' <mjevans1983@gmail.com>,
'Eyal Lebedinsky' <eyal@eyal.emu.id.au>,
'linux-raid list' <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: mismatch_cnt again
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:23:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877htrw9cj.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DC9DEEF4919E420CB7CC2A160120D49A@m5> (Guy Watkins's message of "Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:29:17 -0500")
"Guy Watkins" <linux-raid@watkins-home.com> writes:
> I have been following this issue some, and I think this could be a cause for
> silent corruption on RAID5 and RAID6. I don't think this has been
> mentioned, if so, sorry.
>
> If data blocks can be changed in memory before written to disk, even if the
> data blocks that were changed were never needed again from the disk, the
> other related blocks in the stripe are at risk. If the parity blocks are
> computed, then the 1 data block in memory is changed, then the blocks are
> written to disk, the parity would be wrong. If a disk fails and is re-added
> or replaced, the data block in that stripe will be computed using the
> changed block giving a now corrupt value. I am assuming the stripe has some
> data blocks that have needed data and at least 1 that was not needed, and
> that block that was not needed was changed before writing it to disk. And
> the disk that failed did not have the block that had been changed.
>
> I have a hard time conveying my thought in text. I hope you understand me.
>
> Thanks for reading.
In short, the block on the replaced disk will be wrong and won't be
the one that caused the mismatch. I.e. a second block gets broken.
Replace another disk ad yet another block gets wrong. and so on.
MfG
Goswin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-16 1:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-07 0:41 mismatch_cnt again Eyal Lebedinsky
2009-11-07 1:53 ` berk walker
2009-11-07 7:49 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2009-11-07 8:08 ` Michael Evans
2009-11-07 8:42 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2009-11-07 13:51 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-07 14:58 ` Doug Ledford
2009-11-07 16:23 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-11-07 16:37 ` Doug Ledford
2009-11-07 22:25 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2009-11-07 22:57 ` Doug Ledford
2009-11-08 15:32 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-09 18:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-07 22:19 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2009-11-07 22:58 ` Doug Ledford
2009-11-08 15:46 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-08 16:04 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-11-09 18:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-09 21:50 ` NeilBrown
2009-11-10 18:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-10 22:17 ` Peter Rabbitson
2009-11-13 2:15 ` Neil Brown
2009-11-09 19:13 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-08 22:51 ` Peter Rabbitson
2009-11-09 18:56 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-11-09 21:14 ` NeilBrown
2009-11-09 21:54 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-11-10 0:17 ` NeilBrown
2009-11-10 9:09 ` Peter Rabbitson
2009-11-10 14:03 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-11-12 22:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-13 17:12 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-11-14 17:01 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-17 5:19 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-11-14 19:04 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-17 5:22 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-11-10 19:52 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-11-13 2:37 ` Neil Brown
2009-11-13 5:30 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-13 9:33 ` Peter Rabbitson
2009-11-15 21:05 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2009-11-15 22:29 ` Guy Watkins
2009-11-16 1:23 ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2009-11-16 1:37 ` Neil Brown
2009-11-16 5:21 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-16 5:35 ` Neil Brown
2009-11-16 7:40 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-12 22:57 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-09 18:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-09 20:58 ` Doug Ledford
2009-11-09 22:03 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-12 19:20 greg
2009-11-13 2:28 ` Neil Brown
2009-11-13 5:19 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-11-15 1:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-16 21:36 greg
2009-11-16 22:14 ` Neil Brown
2009-11-17 4:50 ` Goswin von Brederlow
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