From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>,
LinuxRaid RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch] mdadm: move mdadm.map file into /dev/md
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:15:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87prfof1bp.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <155bf3edda1c2692d316807ff5f58f30.squirrel@neil.brown.name> (NeilBrown's message of "Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:26:24 +1000 (EST)")
"NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de> writes:
> On Tue, April 7, 2009 10:16 pm, Doug Ledford wrote:
>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>>> Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Originally, mdadm used /var/run/mdadm/mdadm.map file to store the
>>>> temporary mappings of incrementally added devices to device names.
>>>> Unfortunately, this breaks incremental assembly if used early in the
>>>> booting process. Specifically, root may still be read only. Since
>>>> incremental assembly is largely a udev specific feature, and udev
>>>> needs a writable /dev tmpfs mount even when root is still read only,
>>>> it's safer to put our mdadm.map file in /dev/md so that we can write
>>>> to the map file no matter how early in the boot process we are
>>>> attempting to use incremental assembly.
>>>
>>> What about /lib/init/rw?
>>
>> Never heard of it. But, if / is read-only, why wouldn't that also be
>> read-only?
>
> because a tmpfs was mounted there. It's probably a Debian-specific
> thing.
>
> Why /var/run cannot be mounted from tmpfs nice and early too I don't know..
Because /var is not yet mounted.
You would have to create /var/run on the / filesystem, mount a tmpfs
there early during boot. Then later you would have to move the
filesystem somwhere else (/tmp/run?), mount /var and move it back. And
you would have a race condition where /var/run is not available for a
while.
> I understand that some people think /var/run needs to persist across
> reboots to preserve ownership of directories, but they are wrong :-)
> /var/run should be a tmpfs mount point very early.
Which Ubuntu defaults to and Debian is supporting but not defaulting to.
> I have to say that putting the map file in /dev feels very icky
> to me. It isn't a device, and so doesn't belong in /dev.
> If we go around putting things somewhere convenient rather than
> where they belong, we quickly end up with a mess.
>
> So while it might be very pragmatic, I am currently dis-inclined
> to take the patch. Can you try asking your boot-script people
> to make /var/run be an early tmpfs ???
Having /var/run early just complicates things needlessly.
Maybe mdadm should just have
-m, --map <file>
Filename of the map file for incremental operations. Defaults
to /var/run/mdadm.map. Note that the default path might not exist
or be read-only early in the boot process in which case a
suitable alternative must be specified.
Wouldn't that be more flexible?
Debian could then set 'MAP /lib/init/rw' in its mdadm.conf.
> NeilBrown
MfG
Goswin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-08 0:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-06 14:52 [Patch] mdadm: move mdadm.map file into /dev/md Doug Ledford
2009-04-06 19:36 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-07 6:05 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-07 10:55 ` Luca Berra
2009-04-07 21:04 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-07 12:16 ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-07 21:26 ` NeilBrown
2009-04-07 22:14 ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-08 6:38 ` Neil Brown
2009-04-09 19:28 ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-08 0:15 ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2009-04-08 6:31 ` Neil Brown
2009-04-09 19:25 ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-14 1:12 ` Neil Brown
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