From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC242C6FA82 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 12:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231378AbiIMM5K (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:57:10 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47352 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231130AbiIMM5I (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:57:08 -0400 Received: from vps.thesusis.net (vps.thesusis.net [34.202.238.73]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D583425F3 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 05:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vps.thesusis.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C62FE62B5; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:56:37 -0400 (EDT) References: <593e868a-d0a4-3ad5-d983-e585607ec212@turmel.org> <87k0688l6i.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> User-agent: mu4e 1.7.12; emacs 27.1 From: Phillip Susi To: Luigi Fabio Cc: Phil Turmel , linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RAID5 failure and consequent ext4 problems Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:51:25 -0400 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87sfkvzb3u.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org Luigi Fabio writes: > Well, there are several possible explanations, but persistence is > desireable - so evidently enumeration occurs according to controller > order in a repeatable way until something changes in the configuration > - or until you change kernel, someone does something funny with a > driver and the order changes. In 28 years of using Linux, however, > this has happened.. rarely, save for before things were sensible WAY > back when. I *think* it is only because the probes are all *started* in the natural order, so as long as the drives all respond in the same, short amount of time, you get no surprises. If one drive decides to take a little longer to answer today though, it can throw things off.