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From: Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: number of global spares?
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:00:28 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87u0hc55zn.fsf@rimspace.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200508262321.j7QNLuE03756@www.watkins-home.com

"Guy" <bugzilla@watkins-home.com> writes:

[...]

>> I've been working on a RAID setup with dual RAID controllers and
>> three expansion boxes - 48 disks in all, including data, parity and
>> global spares.

[...]

>> They don't feel that the storage has to be blazing fast, and 100% uptime
>> isn't paramount, however they very much do not want to lose their data.
>> 
>> The filesystem will not be backed up - we simply don't have anything large
>> enough to back it up -to-, so if the some part of the storage solution
>> goes kerflooey, we're totally...  er...  out of luck, and they'll probably
>> be looking at me (the primary sysadmin on the storage configuration),
>> wondering why their data is gone.
>
> RAID5, 6 or 1 is not data backup!  It is hardware redundancy!!
> Data loss or corruption can still occur with a RAID solution.  RAID won't
> help if someone fat fingers a "rm" command.
> Corruption of the filesystem can also cause major data loss, without a
> failed disk.
>
> If the data was lost, what would it cost to re-create it?
> Enough to buy a backup system?

I absolutely agree with this.  When - and it is when, not if - the
content of this filesystem goes away, you will be rightly blamed for it.

Invest the few thousand dollars in a good high capacity tape drive and
pay someone to change the tapes.  This will be worth it when the system
finally does fail in some nasty, unpredictable way!

        Daniel



  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-27  5:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-26 19:00 number of global spares? Dan Stromberg
2005-08-26 22:21 ` Mark Hahn
2005-08-27  6:02   ` Dan Stromberg
2005-08-27 19:28     ` Mark Hahn
2005-08-26 22:56 ` Neil Brown
2005-08-27  5:50   ` Dan Stromberg
2005-09-28 19:34     ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-28 19:11   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-08-26 23:21 ` Guy
2005-08-27  5:00   ` Daniel Pittman [this message]
2005-08-27  5:33     ` Dan Stromberg
2005-09-28 19:47       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-28 19:58         ` Dan Stromberg
2005-08-27  5:42   ` Dan Stromberg

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