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From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: david.geib@huskymail.uconn.edu
Cc: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why do I need 4 disks for a raid6?
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:50:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vdq7w46n.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62620.69.0.24.162.1237347686.squirrel@huskymailweb.uconn.edu> (david geib's message of "Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:41:26 -0400 (EDT)")

david.geib@huskymail.uconn.edu writes:

>> Now for the raid6 case. With only 1 data disk and 2 parity disks all 3
>> disks should end up with identical data on them. In effect this should
>> be a 3 disk raid1, a cpu intensive one. Take an existing raid1 with 2
>> or 3 disks, stop the raid, create a new raid6 ovver it with
>> --assume-clean, start the raid. After that one can add more disks and
>> --grow -n 4/5/6/.. the raid6 to a sensible size. Again without going
>> into degraded mode.
>
> If this is the only case where it would be useful, wouldn't it be better
> to add an option to mdadm --grow specifying a new raid level, if
> different? That way you could take your /dev/md9 raid1 and do:
>
> mdadm --add /dev/md9 /dev/sdc1
> mdadm --grow -n 3 /dev/md9 --level=5
>
> or
>
> mdadm --add /dev/md9 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
> mdadm --grow -n 4 /dev/md9 --level=6
>
> or convert a raid5 to raid6 in like fashion, for that matter.

That would do 2 things in one, convert the raid level and grow the
stripes.

On the other hand, if 3 disk raid6 where allowed, then this could be
broken down into 2 simple operations for the userspace: 1) change raid
level without restriping, 2) restripe, which we already know how to
do.

To me it just seems easier to teach the kernel to online reload a raid
device with a different raid mode without any changes, covering
conversion of 1<->4, 1<->5 and 1<->6 in both directions, than to
combine the 2 steps.

That would only leave conversion from 4/5 <-> 6 as complicated case.


And hey, maybe I am crazy and do want a 3 disk raid6 next to my 2 disk
raid5, my 1 disk raid10, my 1 disk raid1 and my 1 disk raid0. :)
The limitation in the kernel just seems arbitrary, that is unless one
of the raid algorithms would break down with just 3 disks.

MfG
        Goswin


  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-18  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-17 19:12 Why do I need 4 disks for a raid6? Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-18  3:41 ` david.geib
2009-03-18  9:50   ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2009-03-18 18:12     ` david.geib
2009-03-18 12:18 ` Andre Noll
     [not found]   ` <49C0EA5F.9070901@vshift.com>
2009-03-18 12:35     ` Andre Noll
2009-03-18 14:08       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-18 14:26         ` Robin Hill
2009-03-18 18:48           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-01 16:08   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-01 17:47     ` Andre Noll
2009-04-01 20:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-01 18:07     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-01 19:05       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-19 23:35 ` Neil Brown
2009-03-20 10:20   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-23 20:20   ` Nifty Fedora Mitch
2009-03-24 19:32     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-04-01 16:09       ` H. Peter Anvin

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