From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Milan Broz <mbroz@redhat.com>, Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
Jun'ichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] linux-next - WARNING: at fs/block_dev.c:824 bd_link_disk_holder+0x92/0x1ac()
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:43:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=LKYzrNsU7jc1Nr4W4CaQ_dmBGeQAquSCp_yAX@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinJ68D6Yc-U-Q=ZfS9mqozj5qtHPtySZHOgjcgP@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 15:30, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Milan Broz <mbroz@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Maybe, but this was not invented in DM/MD camp:-)
>> Probably Kay or Greg can answer why it was done this way?
It's not from Greg or Kay. It just appeared some day in the context of dm. :)
And yes, symlinks *look* nice and simple for the outside, but they are
not, and have all sorts of problems like non-atomic updates, make it
impossible to ever rename a device (as long as they copy the device
name), and and and .... we should not add more of this.
>> If btrfs internally creates some virtual _block_ device for its pool, it should
>> present it here too with slaves/holders. If not, why it should create any links there?
>
> Yeah, that's the most bothering part for me. The biggest customers of
> bd_claim are filesystems and all these custom symlinkeries don't do
> nothing for them. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Btrfs does not use any blockdev as the master for good reason, and it
can never map its slaves inside of /sys/block. Simple meta-blockdevs
like md/dm just don't fit into modern requirements of a filesystem
(directory snapshots, directory subvolumes, complex raids, hassle-free
resizing, ...) -- hence btrfs is much more like a network-filesystem
mount than a stream of blocks like a disk, and does not fit at all
into this model.
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-13 14:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-12 17:34 linux-next - WARNING: at fs/block_dev.c:824 bd_link_disk_holder+0x92/0x1ac() Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-01-13 0:23 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-13 2:19 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-01-13 11:06 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 11:26 ` [dm-devel] " Milan Broz
2011-01-13 12:27 ` Karel Zak
2011-01-13 13:12 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 13:26 ` Karel Zak
2011-01-13 13:37 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 13:52 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 13:58 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-13 14:11 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 14:25 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-13 14:30 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 14:43 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2011-01-13 15:03 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-14 7:38 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-01-13 15:59 ` Karel Zak
2011-01-13 16:10 ` [dm-devel] " Kay Sievers
2011-01-14 15:07 ` Karel Zak
2011-01-14 15:23 ` Kay Sievers
2011-01-13 14:45 ` Theodore Tso
2011-01-13 20:18 ` NeilBrown
2011-01-13 20:41 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-01-14 16:20 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-14 17:59 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-01-14 18:23 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 14:49 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-14 16:35 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 17:21 ` [PATCH] block: restore multiple bd_link_disk_holder() support Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 18:42 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-14 7:31 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-01-14 16:10 ` [PATCH UPDATED] " Tejun Heo
2011-01-14 21:09 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-17 0:18 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
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