From: Roberto Spadim <roberto@spadim.com.br>
To: Linux-RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What's the typical RAID10 setup?
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:37:04 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=s6+d==dkm2rGFn2f8paRXFAT3ZJJS1gjkHbG7@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikRaUp5yr+G8V3jC48GWFmSnp-m+LRMQ9+fOgVy@mail.gmail.com>
the main problem is, you can lose one disk
if you lose any disk, you should replace all disks
and raid1 allow you to make it online (without shutdown your server)
that's the main use of raid1 (replica/mirror/redundance)
2011/1/31 Roberto Spadim <roberto@spadim.com.br>:
> the only way to make it safer, is put more devices on raid1
> for example:
> disks=6 (was wrong on last email)
> raid0= 1-2(a) 3-4(b) 5-6(c)
> raid1= a,b,c
>
> or
> raid1=1-2-3(a) 4-5-6(b)
> raid0=a,b
> now you can loose tree disks
>
> 2011/1/31 Roberto Spadim <roberto@spadim.com.br>:
>> rewriting..
>> using raid10 or raid01 you will have problems if you lose 2 drives too...
>> if you lose two raid 1 devices you loose raid 1...
>> see:
>>
>> disks=4
>> RAID 1+0
>> raid1= 1-2(A) ; 3-4(B); 5-6(C)
>> raid0= A-B-C
>> if you lose (A,B or C) your raid0 stop
>>
>> RAID 0+1
>> raid0= 1-2-3(A) ; 4-5-6(B)
>> raid1= A-B
>> if you lose (1,4 OR 1,5 OR 1,6 OR 2,4 OR 2,5 OR 2,6 OR 3,4 OR 4,5 OR
>> 4,6) your raid0 stop
>>
>> using raid1+0 or raid0+1 you can't lose two disks...
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/1/31 Roberto Spadim <roberto@spadim.com.br>:
>>> do you have a faster array using raid0+1 or raid1+0?
>>>
>>> 2011/1/31 Roberto Spadim <roberto@spadim.com.br>:
>>>> hum that's right,
>>>> but not 'increase' (only if you compare raid0+1 betwen raid1+0) using
>>>> raid1 and after raid0 have LESS point of fail between raid 0 and after
>>>> raid 1, since the number of point of fail is proportional to number of
>>>> raid1 devices.
>>>>
>>>> 2011/1/31 Robin Hill <robin@robinhill.me.uk>:
>>>>> On Mon Jan 31, 2011 at 01:00:13PM -0200, Roberto Spadim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i think make two very big raid 0
>>>>>> and after raid1
>>>>>> is better
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not really - you increase the failure risk doing this. With this setup,
>>>>> a single drive failure from each RAID0 array will lose you the entire
>>>>> array. With the reverse (RAID0 over RAID1) then you require both drives
>>>>> in the RAID1 to fail in order to lose the array. Of course, with a 4
>>>>> drive array then the risk is the same (33% with 2 drive failures) but
>>>>> with a 6 drive array it changes to 60% for RAID1 over RAID0 versus 20%
>>>>> for RAID0 over RAID1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Robin
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2011-01-31 9:41 What's the typical RAID10 setup? Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 10:14 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 10:22 ` Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 10:36 ` CoolCold
2011-01-31 15:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:21 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 15:27 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:28 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:32 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:34 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:37 ` Roberto Spadim [this message]
2011-01-31 15:45 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 16:55 ` Denis
2011-01-31 17:31 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 18:35 ` Denis
2011-01-31 19:15 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:28 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 19:35 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:37 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 20:22 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 20:17 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-31 20:37 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 21:20 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 21:24 ` Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 21:27 ` Jon Nelson
2011-01-31 21:47 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 21:51 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:50 ` NeilBrown
2011-01-31 22:53 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 23:10 ` NeilBrown
2011-01-31 23:14 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:52 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 23:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 10:01 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 13:50 ` Jon Nelson
2011-02-01 14:25 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 14:48 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 15:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:36 ` Drew
2011-02-03 8:18 ` Stan Hoeppner
[not found] ` <AANLkTikerSZfhMbkEvGBVyLB=wHDSHLWszoEz5As5Hi4@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <AANLkTikLyR206x4aMy+veNkWPV67uF9r5dZKGqXJUEqN@mail.gmail.com>
2011-02-03 14:35 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:43 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 15:50 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:54 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 16:02 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 16:07 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 16:16 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 22:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-01 23:12 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 9:25 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-02 16:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:06 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:07 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:10 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 19:44 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-02 20:28 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 21:31 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 22:13 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-02 22:26 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 1:57 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-03 3:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:17 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 23:35 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 16:02 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 16:24 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 17:56 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 18:09 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 20:16 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 20:32 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 20:58 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 21:04 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 21:18 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 0:58 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-01 12:50 ` Roman Mamedov
2011-02-03 11:04 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 14:17 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:54 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 18:39 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 18:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 23:43 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 3:49 ` hansbkk
2011-02-04 7:06 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 8:27 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 9:06 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 10:04 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 11:15 ` hansbkk
2011-02-04 13:33 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 20:35 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 20:42 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 21:15 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 22:05 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 23:03 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-06 3:59 ` Drew
2011-02-06 4:27 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 11:34 ` David Brown
2011-02-04 13:53 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 14:17 ` David Brown
2011-02-04 14:21 ` hansbkk
2011-02-06 4:02 ` Drew
2011-02-06 7:58 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-06 12:03 ` Roman Mamedov
2011-02-06 14:30 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 8:46 ` hansbkk
2011-01-31 19:37 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 19:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:46 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 19:53 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:10 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 22:14 ` Denis
2011-01-31 22:33 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:36 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 20:23 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-31 21:59 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 22:08 ` Jon Nelson
2011-01-31 22:38 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-01 10:05 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 9:20 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-04 16:03 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-04 16:22 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-04 20:35 ` [OT] " Phil Turmel
2011-02-04 20:35 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-04 21:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 21:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:30 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 20:07 ` Stan Hoeppner
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