From: Roberto Spadim <roberto@spadim.com.br>
To: "Scott E. Armitage" <launchpad@scott.armitage.name>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Software RAID and TRIM
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:46:15 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=ttUwZZ-NqxPE0QquHx0bBj4jjsA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikcN9vy1-SeYONZkGmDTH9ikea=4Q@mail.gmail.com>
some ideas....
maybe for a test only...
we could send trim commands on raid1 arrays only or 'raid0 linear'
since they don´t stripe, this could be 'easy' to develop
when filesystem send trim, we send it to down device (/dev/sdX99)
there´s a problem of offset (for raid1) maybe some devices just work
with 4096bytes blocks on trim command, maybe not
we could implement and put in a beta/alpha realease to test like ext4
guys are doing with discard command (it´s a user option today)
2011/6/29 Scott E. Armitage <launchpad@scott.armitage.name>:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Tom De Mulder <tdm27@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> However, that might not necessarily be a problem; tools exist that can be run manually (slightly fsck-like) and tell the drive which blocks can be erased.
>
> For RAID5/6 at least, md will still require knowledge of what stripes
> are and are not in use by the filesystem. In the current
> implementation, the entire array must be consistent, regardless of
> whether or not a particular block is in use. As far as my
> understanding goes, any level of TRIM support for parity arrays would
> be a fundamental shift in the way md treats the array.
>
> The simplest solution I see is to do as Niel suggested, and mimic TRIM
> support at the RAID level, and pass commands down as necessary. An
> alternative solution would be to add a second TRIM layer, where md
> maintains a list of what is or is not in use, and once an entire
> stripe has been discarded by the filesystem, it can send a single TRIM
> command to each member drive to drop the entire stripe contents. This
> adds abstraction for the filesystem layer, allowing it to treat the
> RAID array like a regular SSD, but adds significant complexity to md
> itself.
>
> -Scott
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-29 12:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-28 15:31 Software RAID and TRIM Tom De Mulder
2011-06-28 16:11 ` Mathias Burén
2011-06-29 10:32 ` Tom De Mulder
2011-06-29 10:45 ` NeilBrown
2011-06-29 11:10 ` Tom De Mulder
2011-06-29 11:48 ` Scott E. Armitage
2011-06-29 12:46 ` Roberto Spadim [this message]
2011-06-29 12:46 ` David Brown
2011-06-30 0:28 ` NeilBrown
2011-06-30 7:50 ` David Brown
2011-06-29 13:39 ` Namhyung Kim
2011-06-30 0:27 ` NeilBrown
2011-07-17 22:11 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-17 21:57 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-06-29 10:33 ` Tom De Mulder
2011-06-29 12:42 ` David Brown
2011-06-29 12:55 ` Tom De Mulder
2011-06-29 13:02 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-06-29 13:10 ` David Brown
2011-06-30 5:51 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-07-04 9:13 ` Tom De Mulder
2011-07-04 16:26 ` Werner Fischer
2011-07-17 22:31 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-17 22:16 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-17 22:00 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-06-28 16:17 ` Johannes Truschnigg
2011-06-28 16:40 ` David Brown
2011-07-17 21:52 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-18 5:14 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-07-18 10:35 ` David Brown
2011-07-18 10:48 ` Tom De Mulder
2011-07-18 18:09 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-18 20:18 ` David Brown
2011-07-19 9:29 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-19 10:22 ` David Brown
2011-07-19 13:41 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-19 15:06 ` David Brown
2011-07-20 10:39 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-19 14:19 ` Tom De Mulder
2011-07-20 7:42 ` David Brown
2011-07-20 12:20 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-20 12:13 ` Werner Fischer
2011-07-20 12:25 ` Lutz Vieweg
2011-07-18 10:53 ` Tom De Mulder
2011-07-18 12:13 ` Werner Fischer
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