* RAID/dmaengine violates the dma-streaming API @ 2011-04-17 16:00 saeed bishara 2011-04-27 11:42 ` saeed bishara 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: saeed bishara @ 2011-04-17 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Williams, linux-raid, linux-arm-kernel Hi, when md uses the dma for offloading xor and memcpy operations, it violates the dma-mapping API. here is the scenario I'm taking about (under write to degraded raid5): 1. ops_run_prexor sends xor operation from buffers A and B, and the destination is A. 2. ops_run_biodrain: sends mempcy operation from C to B. 3. ops_run_reconstruct5: sends xor operation from A and B, and the destination is A again. in step 1, the async tx maps A using dma_map_page, and in step 3, it maps again the same buffer. but, if the request from step 1 still being handled the dma engine, then we end with a case where the buffer mapped while it still belongs to the dma hw. when the arch is ARMv6/SMP mode (without io coherency), the cache maintenance involves read/write access to the buffers, that means, the second mapping above may access the buffer(with read/write) while the dma is writing to it!!. also, from performance sake, it would be great if this multiple mappings get avoided. saeed ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: RAID/dmaengine violates the dma-streaming API 2011-04-17 16:00 RAID/dmaengine violates the dma-streaming API saeed bishara @ 2011-04-27 11:42 ` saeed bishara 2011-04-27 20:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: saeed bishara @ 2011-04-27 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Russell King, Dan Williams; +Cc: linux-raid, linux-arm-kernel On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM, saeed bishara <saeed.bishara@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > when md uses the dma for offloading xor and memcpy operations, it > violates the dma-mapping API. here is the scenario I'm taking about > (under write to degraded raid5): > 1. ops_run_prexor sends xor operation from buffers A and B, and the > destination is A. > 2. ops_run_biodrain: sends mempcy operation from C to B. > 3. ops_run_reconstruct5: sends xor operation from A and B, and the > destination is A again. > > in step 1, the async tx maps A using dma_map_page, and in step 3, it > maps again the same buffer. but, if the request from step 1 still > being handled the dma engine, then we end with a case where the buffer > mapped while it still belongs to the dma hw. > when the arch is ARMv6/SMP mode (without io coherency), the cache > maintenance involves read/write access to the buffers, that means, the > second mapping above may access the buffer(with read/write) while the > dma is writing to it!!. > Russell/Dan, can you have a look into this issue? what I see here is that the raid stack issues dma_map_page to a buffer that still owned by DMA. saeed > also, from performance sake, it would be great if this multiple > mappings get avoided. > > saeed > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: RAID/dmaengine violates the dma-streaming API 2011-04-27 11:42 ` saeed bishara @ 2011-04-27 20:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2011-04-27 23:12 ` Dan Williams 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Russell King - ARM Linux @ 2011-04-27 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: saeed bishara; +Cc: Dan Williams, linux-raid, linux-arm-kernel On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 02:42:57PM +0300, saeed bishara wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM, saeed bishara <saeed.bishara@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > when md uses the dma for offloading xor and memcpy operations, it > > violates the dma-mapping API. here is the scenario I'm taking about > > (under write to degraded raid5): > > 1. ops_run_prexor sends xor operation from buffers A and B, and the > > destination is A. > > 2. ops_run_biodrain: sends mempcy operation from C to B. > > 3. ops_run_reconstruct5: sends xor operation from A and B, and the > > destination is A again. > > > > in step 1, the async tx maps A using dma_map_page, and in step 3, it > > maps again the same buffer. but, if the request from step 1 still > > being handled the dma engine, then we end with a case where the buffer > > mapped while it still belongs to the dma hw. > > when the arch is ARMv6/SMP mode (without io coherency), the cache > > maintenance involves read/write access to the buffers, that means, the > > second mapping above may access the buffer(with read/write) while the > > dma is writing to it!!. > > > Russell/Dan, > can you have a look into this issue? what I see here is that the > raid stack issues dma_map_page to a buffer that still owned by DMA. I already mentioned this issue to Dan, and pointed out that it's a violation of the buffer ownership rules. I don't remember clearly what the outcome of it is, but there's not a lot which can be done at architecture level about it. I think the buffer mapping was going to be moved upwards, to prevent the multiple buffer mapping issue. I don't know if patches were produced though (and I don't have hardware to be able to produce and test such patches against.) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: RAID/dmaengine violates the dma-streaming API 2011-04-27 20:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux @ 2011-04-27 23:12 ` Dan Williams 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Dan Williams @ 2011-04-27 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Russell King - ARM Linux; +Cc: saeed bishara, linux-raid, linux-arm-kernel On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 02:42:57PM +0300, saeed bishara wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM, saeed bishara <saeed.bishara@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > when md uses the dma for offloading xor and memcpy operations, it >> > violates the dma-mapping API. here is the scenario I'm taking about >> > (under write to degraded raid5): >> > 1. ops_run_prexor sends xor operation from buffers A and B, and the >> > destination is A. >> > 2. ops_run_biodrain: sends mempcy operation from C to B. >> > 3. ops_run_reconstruct5: sends xor operation from A and B, and the >> > destination is A again. >> > >> > in step 1, the async tx maps A using dma_map_page, and in step 3, it >> > maps again the same buffer. but, if the request from step 1 still >> > being handled the dma engine, then we end with a case where the buffer >> > mapped while it still belongs to the dma hw. >> > when the arch is ARMv6/SMP mode (without io coherency), the cache >> > maintenance involves read/write access to the buffers, that means, the >> > second mapping above may access the buffer(with read/write) while the >> > dma is writing to it!!. >> > >> Russell/Dan, >> can you have a look into this issue? what I see here is that the >> raid stack issues dma_map_page to a buffer that still owned by DMA. > > I already mentioned this issue to Dan, and pointed out that it's > a violation of the buffer ownership rules. I don't remember clearly > what the outcome of it is, but there's not a lot which can be done at > architecture level about it. > > I think the buffer mapping was going to be moved upwards, to prevent > the multiple buffer mapping issue. I don't know if patches were > produced though (and I don't have hardware to be able to produce and > test such patches against.) > This is still on my plate and is waiting for me to get out from underneath the isci driver effort. I was thinking to push it all to md and kill the api, but then had an idea of an async_session data structure that could automatically marshal a chain of transfers between mapping domains. The fast path would be a chain that stays within one mapping domain, but the infrastructure would be able to devolve to support pathological cases like dma_domain1->cpu->dma_domain2 chains. So md would need to manipulate async_sessions, but it could rely on the async_tx api to handle dma mapping details. That's my 10,000 foot view at least. -- Dan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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