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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com>
Cc: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy@karlsbakk.net>,
	Jeff Johnson <jeff.johnson@aeoncomputing.com>,
	Linux-RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Possible to change chunk size on RAID-1 without re-init or destructive result?
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:46:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2H+eeV_VDDHRYJDNQB8K5tz2pw+JMb154FgA8BoJgFTDdWrQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5158D4BB.6070801@hardwarefreak.com>

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com> wrote:
> On 3/31/2013 12:56 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/31/2013 12:15 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully that gives you enough info to suggest a direction.
>>>
>>> These applications append small data slowly over a long period of time,
>>> which usually means fragmentation.  Thus there's not much to optimize at
>>> the chunk/stripe level, other than keeping chunk size small to spread
>>> random reads over all platters.  You currently have a 16KB chunk, IIRC,
>>> which is about as good as you'll get for this workload.  Given your
>>> applications' low write throughput chunk/strip really doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stan
>>>
>>
>> OK, I cannot argue with your conclusions and will stick with 16K for now.
>>
>> Presumably if any improvement is to be made here its getting
>> everything onto a single partition instead of multiple RAIDs on the
>> same drives which then reduces the physical overhead (moving heads to
>> different partitions) and allows the md software to do the heavy
>> lifting?
>
> Your write IO rate appears to be so low that it really makes no
> difference.  I'd guess you could run all of this from a single fast disk
> drive (10/15K or SSD) without skipping a beat.
>
> --
> Stan
>
>

So maybe the idea I had awhile back about moving the VMs to the SSD -
the VMs are about 90GB, the SSD is 128GB - and then at the end of
every day just copying the VMs over to the RAID as a backup - would be
a better way to run?

There was a thread here sometime ago about using an SSD as a cache for
RAID. I suppose that's a possibility but it sounds like more
complexity than I need or want.

Thanks,
Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-01 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-27  5:30 Possible to change chunk size on RAID-1 without re-init or destructive result? Jeff Johnson
2013-03-27  5:56 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2013-03-27  6:02 ` Roman Mamedov
2013-03-27 16:01 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2013-03-27 16:23   ` Jeff Johnson
2013-03-27 16:44     ` Roman Mamedov
2013-03-27 19:36     ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-27 19:11   ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-27 19:23     ` Mark Knecht
2013-03-27 20:10       ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-27 21:06         ` Mark Knecht
2013-03-27 22:08           ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-27 22:18             ` Mark Knecht
2013-03-31 15:56               ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-31 17:15                 ` Mark Knecht
2013-03-31 17:41                   ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-03-31 17:56                     ` Mark Knecht
2013-04-01  0:28                       ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-04-01 16:46                         ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2013-04-02  1:15                           ` Brad Campbell

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