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From: Xiao Ni <xni@redhat.com>
To: Mariusz Tkaczyk <mariusz.tkaczyk@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, linux-raid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] raid0, linear, md: add error_handlers for raid0 and linear
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 11:08:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALTww2_WVGq16d0u3iuKL-ZWFHdN50Q6iKsrQtu+sdspVuMzAg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211221145628.0000144f@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 9:56 PM Mariusz Tkaczyk
<mariusz.tkaczyk@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Xiao,
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 09:40:50 +0800
> Xiao Ni <xni@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > Now for a raid0, it can't remove one member disk from raid0. It
> > returns EBUSY and the raid0 still can work well. It makes sense.
> > Because all member disks are busy, the admin can't remove the member
> > disk and mdadm gives a proper error.
>
> EBUSY means that drive is busy but it is not. Just drive cannot be
> safety removed. As I wrote in patch 2:
>
> If "faulty" was not set then -EBUSY was returned to
> userspace. It causes that mdadm expects -EBUSY if the array
> becomes failed. There are some reasons to not consider this mechanism
> as correct:
> - drive can't be failed for different reasons.
> - there are path where -EBUSY is not reported and drive removal leads
> to failed array, without notification for userspace.
> - in the array failure case -EBUSY seems to be wrong status. Array is
> not busy, but removal process cannot proceed safe.
>
> For compatibility reasons i cannot remove EBUSY. I left more detailed
> explanation in patch 2.
>
> > With this patch, it changes the situation. In raid0_error, it sets
> > MD_BROKEN. In fact, it isn't broken. So is it really good to set
> > MD_BROKEN here? In patch 62f7b1989c0 ("md raid0/linear: Mark array as
> > 'broken'...), MD_BROKEN is introduced
> > when the member disk disappears and the disk is really broken. For
> > raid0/linear, the raid device can't work anymore.
>
> It is broken, any md_error() call should end with appropriate action:
> - drive removal (if possible)
> - failing array (if cannot degrade array)
>
> We cannot trust drive if md_error() was called, so writes will be
> blocked. IMO it is reasonable- to not engage level stack, because one
> or more members cannot be trusted (even if it is still accessible). Just
> allow to read old data (if still possible).
>

Thanks for the explanation. It's ok for me. Just want to have the same
understanding. Now raid0 works
in the way that it will fail when calling md_error.

Regards
Xiao


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-22  3:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-16 14:52 [PATCH v2 0/3] Use MD_BROKEN for redundant arrays Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-16 14:52 ` [PATCH 1/3] raid0, linear, md: add error_handlers for raid0 and linear Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-17  2:00   ` Guoqing Jiang
2021-12-17  2:07     ` Guoqing Jiang
2021-12-19  3:26     ` Xiao Ni
2021-12-22  1:22       ` Guoqing Jiang
2021-12-20  9:39     ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-19  3:20   ` Xiao Ni
2021-12-20  8:45     ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-21  1:40       ` Xiao Ni
2021-12-21 13:56         ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-22  1:54           ` Guoqing Jiang
2021-12-22  3:08           ` Xiao Ni [this message]
2021-12-16 14:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] md: Set MD_BROKEN for RAID1 and RAID10 Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-17  2:16   ` Guoqing Jiang
2021-12-22  7:24   ` Xiao Ni
2021-12-27 12:34     ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-16 14:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] raid5: introduce MD_BROKEN Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-17  2:26   ` Guoqing Jiang
2021-12-17  8:37     ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2021-12-22  1:46       ` Guoqing Jiang
2021-12-17  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Use MD_BROKEN for redundant arrays Song Liu
2021-12-17  8:02   ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-01-25 15:52     ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-01-26  1:13       ` Song Liu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-01-27 15:39 [PATCH v3 0/3] Improve failed arrays handling Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-01-27 15:39 ` [PATCH 1/3] raid0, linear, md: add error_handlers for raid0 and linear Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-02-12  1:12   ` Guoqing Jiang
2022-02-14  9:37     ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-02-15  3:43       ` Guoqing Jiang
2022-02-15 14:06         ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-02-16  9:47           ` Xiao Ni
2022-02-22  6:34           ` Song Liu
2022-02-22 13:02             ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-03-22 15:23 [PATCH 0/3] Failed array handling improvements Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-03-22 15:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] raid0, linear, md: add error_handlers for raid0 and linear Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-04-08  0:16   ` Song Liu
2022-04-08 14:35     ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-04-08 16:18       ` Song Liu
2022-04-12 15:31         ` Mariusz Tkaczyk
2022-04-12 16:36           ` Song Liu

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