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From: Alex <creamyfish@gmail.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is this enough for us to have triple-parity RAID?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:27:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMqP1GVjqBMTiM9Yb+PxQLULWDnG8x3uvzuLFKya3NXsTPt_hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F905690.3060301@zytor.com>

I think when David says 'generator', he doesn't mean the generator of the order
8 Galois field, he means an arbitrary set  of number in it which can render the
system of equations solvable to up to a certain number of data
disks(not necessarily
255). He uses a brute-force method with the help of a Python program to actually
figure that out. It looks pretty cool to me since I have known the
system of 4 equations
generally fails to render a solution for a while, but now I know
exactly how many ways
it may fail...

Cheers,
Alex


On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:16 AM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> On 04/17/2012 01:18 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>
>> For quad parity, we can try g3 = 8 as the obvious next choice in the
>> pattern.  Unfortunately, we start hitting conflicts.  To recover missing
>> data, we have to solve multiple simultaneous equations over G(2⁸), whose
>> coefficients depend on the index numbers of the missing disks.  With
>> parity generators (1, 2, 4, 8), some of these combinations of missing
>> disk indexes lead to insoluble equations when you have more that 21 disks.
>>
>
> That is because 255 = 3*5*17... this means {02}^3 = {08} is not a generator.
>
>        -hpa
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-20  2:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-17  6:11 Is this enough for us to have triple-parity RAID? Alex
2012-04-17  7:58 ` David Brown
2012-04-17 16:37   ` Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner
2012-04-18 14:15     ` Alex
2012-04-18 14:11       ` David Brown
2012-04-17 17:16   ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-17 20:18     ` David Brown
2012-04-17 20:54       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-18 18:22       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-18 20:20         ` David Brown
2012-04-18 20:39           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-19 18:16       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-20  2:27         ` Alex [this message]
2012-04-20  3:00           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-20  3:32             ` Alex
2012-04-20 18:58               ` David Brown
2012-04-20 19:39                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-20 21:04                   ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-20 21:01                 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-20 21:29                   ` Peter Grandi
2012-04-20 22:31                     ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-21  9:51                       ` Peter Grandi
2012-04-21 11:18                         ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-22  3:14                           ` Alex
2012-04-22  8:57                             ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-20  7:45 ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-04-23 15:26   ` Alex
2012-04-25  1:20     ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-04-25  2:45       ` Alex
2012-04-25 16:59         ` Emmanuel Noobadmin
2012-04-25 19:29           ` David Brown
2012-04-26  2:30           ` Alex
2012-04-27 15:15             ` Emmanuel Noobadmin
2012-05-01 16:38               ` Alex
2012-04-26  4:24           ` Alex

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