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From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	paulmck@kernel.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 24/29] mm: vmscan: make global slab shrink lockless
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 21:10:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a21047bb-3b87-a50a-94a7-f3fa4847bc08@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZJU708VIyJ/3StAX@dread.disaster.area>



On 2023/6/23 14:29, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 05:12:02PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 6/22/23 10:53, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>> @@ -1067,33 +1068,27 @@ static unsigned long shrink_slab(gfp_t gfp_mask, int nid,
>>>   	if (!mem_cgroup_disabled() && !mem_cgroup_is_root(memcg))
>>>   		return shrink_slab_memcg(gfp_mask, nid, memcg, priority);
>>>   
>>> -	if (!down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem))
>>> -		goto out;
>>> -
>>> -	list_for_each_entry(shrinker, &shrinker_list, list) {
>>> +	rcu_read_lock();
>>> +	list_for_each_entry_rcu(shrinker, &shrinker_list, list) {
>>>   		struct shrink_control sc = {
>>>   			.gfp_mask = gfp_mask,
>>>   			.nid = nid,
>>>   			.memcg = memcg,
>>>   		};
>>>   
>>> +		if (!shrinker_try_get(shrinker))
>>> +			continue;
>>> +		rcu_read_unlock();
>>
>> I don't think you can do this unlock?
>>
>>> +
>>>   		ret = do_shrink_slab(&sc, shrinker, priority);
>>>   		if (ret == SHRINK_EMPTY)
>>>   			ret = 0;
>>>   		freed += ret;
>>> -		/*
>>> -		 * Bail out if someone want to register a new shrinker to
>>> -		 * prevent the registration from being stalled for long periods
>>> -		 * by parallel ongoing shrinking.
>>> -		 */
>>> -		if (rwsem_is_contended(&shrinker_rwsem)) {
>>> -			freed = freed ? : 1;
>>> -			break;
>>> -		}
>>> -	}
>>>   
>>> -	up_read(&shrinker_rwsem);
>>> -out:
>>> +		rcu_read_lock();
>>
>> That new rcu_read_lock() won't help AFAIK, the whole
>> list_for_each_entry_rcu() needs to be under the single rcu_read_lock() to be
>> safe.
> 
> Yeah, that's the pattern we've been taught and the one we can look
> at and immediately say "this is safe".
> 
> This is a different pattern, as has been explained bi Qi, and I
> think it *might* be safe.
> 
> *However.*
> 
> Right now I don't have time to go through a novel RCU list iteration
> pattern it one step at to determine the correctness of the
> algorithm. I'm mostly worried about list manipulations that can
> occur outside rcu_read_lock() section bleeding into the RCU
> critical section because rcu_read_lock() by itself is not a memory
> barrier.
> 
> Maybe Paul has seen this pattern often enough he could simply tell
> us what conditions it is safe in. But for me to work that out from
> first principles? I just don't have the time to do that right now.

Hi Paul, can you help to confirm this?

> 
>> IIUC this is why Dave in [4] suggests unifying shrink_slab() with
>> shrink_slab_memcg(), as the latter doesn't iterate the list but uses IDR.
> 
> Yes, I suggested the IDR route because radix tree lookups under RCU
> with reference counted objects are a known safe pattern that we can
> easily confirm is correct or not.  Hence I suggested the unification
> + IDR route because it makes the life of reviewers so, so much
> easier...

In fact, I originally planned to try the unification + IDR method you
suggested at the beginning. But in the case of CONFIG_MEMCG disabled,
the struct mem_cgroup is not even defined, and root_mem_cgroup and
shrinker_info will not be allocated. This required more code changes, so
I ended up keeping the shrinker_list and implementing the above pattern.

If the above pattern is not safe, I will go back to the unification +
IDR method.

Thanks,
Qi

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-23 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-22  8:53 [PATCH 00/29] use refcount+RCU method to implement lockless slab shrink Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 01/29] mm: shrinker: add shrinker::private_data field Qi Zheng
2023-06-22 14:47   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-06-23 12:50     ` [External] " Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 02/29] mm: vmscan: introduce some helpers for dynamically allocating shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-23  6:12   ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-23 12:49     ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 03/29] drm/i915: dynamically allocate the i915_gem_mm shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 04/29] drm/msm: dynamically allocate the drm-msm_gem shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 05/29] drm/panfrost: dynamically allocate the drm-panfrost shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-23 13:33   ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 06/29] dm: dynamically allocate the dm-bufio shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 07/29] dm zoned: dynamically allocate the dm-zoned-meta shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 08/29] md/raid5: dynamically allocate the md-raid5 shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 09/29] bcache: dynamically allocate the md-bcache shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 10/29] vmw_balloon: dynamically allocate the vmw-balloon shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 11/29] virtio_balloon: dynamically allocate the virtio-balloon shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 12/29] mbcache: dynamically allocate the mbcache shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 13/29] ext4: dynamically allocate the ext4-es shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 14/29] jbd2,ext4: dynamically allocate the jbd2-journal shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 15/29] NFSD: dynamically allocate the nfsd-client shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-23 21:49   ` Chuck Lever
2023-06-24 11:17     ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 16/29] NFSD: dynamically allocate the nfsd-reply shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 17/29] xfs: dynamically allocate the xfs-buf shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 18/29] xfs: dynamically allocate the xfs-inodegc shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 19/29] xfs: dynamically allocate the xfs-qm shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 20/29] zsmalloc: dynamically allocate the mm-zspool shrinker Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 21/29] fs: super: dynamically allocate the s_shrink Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 22/29] drm/ttm: introduce pool_shrink_rwsem Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 23/29] mm: shrinker: add refcount and completion_wait fields Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 24/29] mm: vmscan: make global slab shrink lockless Qi Zheng
2023-06-22 15:12   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-06-22 16:42     ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-22 17:41       ` Alan Huang
2023-06-22 18:18         ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-23  6:29     ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-23 13:10       ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2023-06-23 22:19         ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-24 11:08           ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-25  3:15             ` Qi Zheng
2023-07-04  4:20             ` Qi Zheng
2023-07-03 16:39       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-04  3:45         ` Qi Zheng
2023-07-05  3:27           ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 25/29] mm: vmscan: make memcg " Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 26/29] mm: shrinker: make count and scan in shrinker debugfs lockless Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 27/29] mm: vmscan: hold write lock to reparent shrinker nr_deferred Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 28/29] mm: shrinkers: convert shrinker_rwsem to mutex Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  8:53 ` [PATCH 29/29] mm: shrinker: move shrinker-related code into a separate file Qi Zheng
2023-06-22 14:53   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-06-23 13:12     ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-23  5:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-06-23 13:24     ` Qi Zheng
2023-06-22  9:02 ` [PATCH 00/29] use refcount+RCU method to implement lockless slab shrink Qi Zheng

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