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From: Derek Vadala <derek@cynicism.com>
To: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy@karlsbakk.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	Tedd Hansen <tedd@konge.net>, Christian Vik <christian@konge.net>,
	Lars Christian Nygaard <lars@snart.com>
Subject: Re: RAID-6 support in kernel?
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 02:25:22 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adfd04$evf$2@main.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0206031020290.30424-100000@mail.pronto.tv>

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:

> It'll waste 9 drives, giving me a total capacity of 7n instead of 14n. 
> And, by definition, RAID-6 _can_ withstand _any_ two-drive failure.

This is certainly not true. 

Combining N RAID-5 into a stripe wastes on N disks. 

If you combine two it wastes 2 disks, etc.

That is, for each RAID-5 you waste a single disk worth of storage for
partiy. I don't know what equation you're using where you get 9 drives
from.

As far as it's ability to withstand _any_ 2-disk failure... I'm not sure
what you mean by definition. RAID-6 implemations don't follow a standard
because there isn't one. Depending on how it's implemented, RAID-6 is not
necessarily able to withstand a filaure of any two disks. We can argue as
much as you want, but I'm not willing to invest the time.

> With a 1500MHz Athlon on a typical file server where there's not much 
> writes, the CPU is sitting there chrunching RC5-64 som 99,95 % of the 
> time. I don't think it'll make much differnce with today's CPUs

It's up to you to decide if the performance trade-off is worthwhile. I
merely trying to point out that system with 2 RAID-5 is likely to incur
the same CPU hit as a single RAID-6, implemented in the kernel. 


---
Derek Vadala, derek@cynicism.com, http://www.cynicism.com/~derek


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-03  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-02 23:01 RAID-6 support in kernel? Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03  0:33 ` Derek Vadala
2002-06-03  8:24   ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03  9:25     ` Derek Vadala [this message]
     [not found]     ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0206030213510.23709-100000@gecko.roadtoad.net>
2002-06-03  9:31       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-03 14:52         ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-03 14:55           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-06-04 12:49           ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-04 15:49         ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-04 15:49         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]         ` <20020604154904.J36@toy.ucw.cz>
2002-06-04 22:27           ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-05  9:28           ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
     [not found]           ` <3CFD3EE5.DAE3E2C9@daimi.au.dk>
2002-06-05  9:36             ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2002-06-03 17:33       ` Gregory Leblanc
2002-06-03 19:53         ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-06-04 20:20         ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-06-05  7:57           ` Luca Berra
2002-06-05 10:53             ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-06-05 19:42               ` Luca Berra
2002-06-05 21:25                 ` background scanning for media defects (was Re: RAID-6 support in kernel?) Friedrich Lobenstock
2002-06-04 18:50   ` RAID-6 support in kernel? Bill Davidsen
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.3.96.1020604144204.5024D-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
2002-06-06  1:19 ` Derek Vadala
2002-06-06  8:28   ` Kasper Dupont
2002-06-06 11:57     ` Helge Hafting

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