From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>
To: Maurice Hilarius <maurice@harddata.com>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question: how to identify failing disk in a RAID1
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:54:15 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0804231453390.4441@p34.internal.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <480F7105.9030405@harddata.com>
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Maurice Hilarius wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> With much appreciated help from Bell Davidsen and Justin Piszcz I recently
> dealt with a problem with a RAID1 set, caused by a failing hard disk.
>
> At the end, there is one question remaining, which I think is quite
> important:
> When one has a RAID5 or RAID6, and a disk starts "acting up" mdadm rapidly
> kicks out the offending device.
> Some might say "too easily" but that is another thread.
>
> On a RAID1 set, until the failing disk completely "packs it in" it remains
> part of the RAID.
>
> Why??
>
> Some more background:
> Since the issue was reported and explored I have recreated this on a test
> machine.
> Installed RAID1 with one known good and one know error prone drive.
> Easy to do as the error drive has a thermal issue.
> Keep it cold, no problems, but after 30 minutes use in a +25C room it start
> to generate data errors.
> I reproduced exactly the problem I saw before:
> Data errors occur, the other drive in the RAID1 set gets "infected" with the
> bad data, and the file system will get corrupted.
> On BOTH drives.
>
> This is highly reproducible.
>
> In summary:
> 1) RAID1 lacks significant protection from the effects of a data error
> condition on a failing drive
> 2) I recommend anyone using madadm refrain from using RAID1 until this issue
> is addressed and resolved.
>
> Thanks again.
I can confirm this, until you actually REBOOT the host with RAID1 only
then will it kick it out. Whereas with RAID5, I experienced the same
thing, it kicks it out right away, would need to wait for the
linux-raid/developers to answer this one.
Justin.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-23 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-13 19:14 Question: how to identify failing disk in a RAID1 Maurice Hilarius
2008-04-13 19:29 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-04-14 1:14 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] ` <4802CDA2.605@harddata.com>
2008-04-14 16:38 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] ` <4804CD4F.7080303@harddata.com>
2008-04-15 18:14 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] ` <48050DD6.7020404@harddata.com>
[not found] ` <48055EFA.8060505@tmr.com>
[not found] ` <480607F2.3060504@harddata.com>
2008-04-17 13:12 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] ` <48076096.2020804@harddata.com>
2008-04-18 13:17 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] ` <480F7105.9030405@harddata.com>
2008-04-23 18:54 ` Justin Piszcz [this message]
[not found] ` <480F8830.6020207@harddata.com>
2008-04-23 19:26 ` Justin Piszcz
2008-04-27 17:03 ` Keith Roberts
2008-04-27 19:28 ` Richard Scobie
2008-04-28 5:29 ` Keith Roberts
2008-04-28 6:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-04-28 7:01 ` Richard Scobie
2008-04-27 21:53 ` Mark Hahn
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2008-04-18 17:36 David Lethe
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