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From: Jes Sorensen <jes.sorensen@gmail.com>
To: Peter Rajnoha <prajnoha@redhat.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [mdadm PATCH] Create: tell udev md device is not ready when first created.
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 09:32:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5fe5d16-5ca6-94b0-fd5b-0b6009d78bab@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6bd347e1-170c-48e9-1171-09ff143ace83@redhat.com>

On 04/28/2017 05:28 AM, Peter Rajnoha wrote:
> On 04/28/2017 07:05 AM, NeilBrown wrote:
>>
>> When an array is created the content is not initialized,
>> so it could have remnants of an old filesystem or md array
>> etc on it.
>> udev will see this and might try to activate it, which is almost
>> certainly not what is wanted.
>>
>> So create a mechanism for mdadm to communicate with udev to tell
>> it that the device isn't ready.  This mechanism is the existance
>> of a file /run/mdadm/created-mdXXX where mdXXX is the md device name.
>>
>> When creating an array, mdadm will create the file.
>> A new udev rule file, 01-md-raid-creating.rules, will detect the
>> precense of thst file and set ENV{SYSTEMD_READY}="0".
>> This is fairly uniformly used to suppress actions based on the
>> contents of the device.
>
> The scans in udev are primarily directed by blkid call which detects the
> signatures and based on this information various other udev rules fire.
>
> The blkid as well as wipefs uses common libblkid library to detect these
> signatures - is mdadm going to use libblkid to wipe the signatures on MD
> device initialization or is it relying on external tools to do this? How
> is mdadm actually initializing/wiping the newly created MD device?

mdadm doesn't wipe data and it isn't supposed to. Being able to create 
an array from drives with existing data is a feature.

It is the responsibility of the system administrator to handle drives 
with existing data, in the same way the administrator is expected to 
handle insertion of USB drives or external drives being powered on.

Jes


  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-02 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-20  2:40 [mdadm PATCH 0/4] Assorted mdadm patches NeilBrown
2017-04-20  2:40 ` [mdadm PATCH 2/4] systemd/mdadm-last-resort: use ConditionPathExists instead of Conflicts NeilBrown
2017-04-20 16:57   ` Jes Sorensen
2017-04-20  2:40 ` [mdadm PATCH 1/4] Grow_continue_command: ensure 'content' is properly initialised NeilBrown
2017-04-20 16:56   ` Jes Sorensen
2017-04-20  2:40 ` [mdadm PATCH 3/4] Detail: ensure --export names are acceptable as shell variables NeilBrown
2017-04-20 16:59   ` Jes Sorensen
2017-04-20  2:40 ` [mdadm PATCH 4/4] Create: tell udev device is not ready when first created NeilBrown
2017-04-20 17:29   ` Jes Sorensen
2017-04-20 21:35     ` NeilBrown
2017-04-26 10:19       ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-04-28  3:55         ` NeilBrown
2017-04-28  9:08           ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-01  4:35             ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2017-05-02 11:40               ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-02 13:40                 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-05-03 14:27                   ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-03 14:41                     ` Jes Sorensen
2017-05-02 21:42                 ` NeilBrown
2017-04-28  5:05         ` [mdadm PATCH] Create: tell udev md " NeilBrown
2017-04-28  9:28           ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-02 13:32             ` Jes Sorensen [this message]
2017-05-03 14:13               ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-03 14:44                 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-05-06 16:25                 ` Wols Lists
2017-05-06 19:50                   ` Phil Turmel
2017-05-09 11:57                   ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-09 12:14                   ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-02 13:42           ` Jes Sorensen
2017-05-03 14:32             ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-03 14:45               ` [dm-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2017-05-04 10:58           ` Peter Rajnoha
2017-05-05  5:16             ` [mdadm PATCH] Fix typo in new udev rule NeilBrown
2017-05-05 15:07               ` Jes Sorensen

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