From: hpa@zytor.com (H. Peter Anvin)
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Good news / bad news - The joys of RAID
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 00:17:12 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cp85i8$doo$1@terminus.zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200412021147.12410.systemloc@earthlink.net
Followup to: <200412021147.12410.systemloc@earthlink.net>
By author: TJ <systemloc@earthlink.net>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.raid
>
> I do not think the deathstar incident was due to a firmware problem as you
> describe at all. I had a lot of these drives fail, and I read as much as I
> could find on the subject. The problem was most likely caused by the fact
> that these drives used IBM's new glass substrate technology. This substrate
> had heat expansion issues which caused the heads to misalign on tracks and
> eventually cross write over tracks, corrupting data. The classic "click of
> death" was the sound of the drive searching for a track repetitively. In some
> cases a format would allow the drive to be used again, in many cases it would
> not. It is my belief that formatting was inneffective at fixing the drive
> because the cross writing probably hit some of the low level data, which the
> drive cannot repair on a format.
>
It's also worth noting that there was extremely high correlation
between which factory built the drives and the failure rates.
Apparently some factories had virtually zero instances of this
problem.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-09 0:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-19 21:06 Good news / bad news - The joys of RAID Robin Bowes
2004-11-19 21:28 ` Guy
2004-11-20 18:42 ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-20 19:37 ` Guy
2004-11-20 20:03 ` Mark Klarzynski
2004-11-20 22:17 ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-20 23:09 ` Guy
2004-12-02 16:47 ` TJ
2004-12-02 17:29 ` Stephen C Woods
2004-12-03 3:37 ` Mark Hahn
2004-12-03 4:16 ` Guy
2004-12-03 4:46 ` Alvin Oga
2004-12-03 5:24 ` Richard Scobie
2004-12-03 5:40 ` Konstantin Olchanski
2004-12-09 0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2004-11-20 23:30 ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-20 19:40 ` David Greaves
2004-11-21 4:33 ` Guy
2004-11-21 1:01 ` berk walker
2004-11-23 19:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-11-23 20:03 ` Guy
2004-11-23 21:18 ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-23 23:02 ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-24 0:33 ` Guy
2004-11-24 1:45 ` berk walker
2004-11-24 2:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-11-24 8:01 ` Good news / bad news - The joys of hardware Guy
2004-11-24 8:57 ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-19 21:42 ` Good news / bad news - The joys of RAID Guy
2004-11-28 13:15 ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-30 2:05 ` Neil Brown
2004-12-01 3:34 ` Doug Ledford
2004-12-01 11:50 ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-19 21:58 ` Gordon Henderson
[not found] <037401c4cf3b$ee75bc90$030a0a0a@musicroom>
2004-11-21 4:33 ` Guy
2004-11-22 14:13 ` Yu Chen
2004-11-22 14:34 ` Gordon Henderson
2004-11-22 17:51 ` Guy
2004-11-22 23:26 ` Gordon Henderson
2004-11-22 23:48 ` Guy
2004-11-23 0:09 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-11-23 15:33 ` Gordon Henderson
2004-11-23 0:17 ` berk walker
2004-11-23 9:24 ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-23 12:31 ` Bob Hillegas
2004-11-23 13:00 ` berk walker
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0411201655400.19120-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2004-11-21 21:28 ` Mark Klarzynski
2004-11-21 21:58 ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-22 6:29 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
[not found] <04Nov26.172857est.30052@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2004-11-26 22:41 ` Robin Bowes
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