From: Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>
To: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>, Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: xni@redhat.com, agk@redhat.com, snitzer@kernel.org,
dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, yi.zhang@huawei.com,
yangerkun@huawei.com, "yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next v3 00/25] md: synchronize io with array reconfiguration
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2023 10:32:39 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <eb4ea24d-f7b4-899b-9259-2d48dc83e48f@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPhsuW7TRODsR_N95AmXJCZvpTuSKgbOjnYGxMGAWtmt3x9Vkw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
在 2023/10/05 11:55, Song Liu 写道:
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 8:42 PM Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 在 2023/09/29 3:15, Song Liu 写道:
>>> Hi Kuai,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the patchset!
>>>
>>> A few high level questions/suggestions:
>>
>> Thanks a lot for these!
>>>
>>> 1. This is a big change that needs a lot of explanation. While you managed to
>>> keep each patch relatively small (great job btw), it is not very clear why we
>>> need these changes. Specifically, we are adding a new mutex, it is worth
>>> mentioning why we cannot achieve the same goal without it. Please add
>>> more information in the cover letter. We will put part of the cover letter in
>>> the merge commit.
>>
>> Yeah, I realize that I explain too little. I will add background and
>> design.
>>>
Can you take a look about this new cover letter?
##### Backgroud
Our testers started to test raid10 last year, and we found that there
are lots of problem in the following test scenario:
- add or remove disks to the array
- issue io to the array
At first, we fixed each problem independently respect that io can
concurrent with array reconfiguration. However, on the one hand new
issues are continuously reported, on the other hand other personalities
might have the same problems. I'm thinking about how to fix these
problems thoroughly.
Refer to how block layer protect io with queue reconfiguration(for
example, change elevator):
```
blk_mq_freeze_queue
-> wait for all io to be done, and prevent new io to be dispatched
// reconfiguration
blk_mq_unfreeze_queue
```
Then it comes to my mind that I can do something similar to synchronize
io with array reconfiguration.
##### rcu introduction
see details in https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/next/RCU/whatisRCU.html
- writer should replace old data with new data first, and free old data
after grace period;
- reader should handle both cases that old data and new data is read,
and the data that is read should not be dereferenced after critical
section;
##### Current synchronization
Add or remove disks to the array can be triggered by ioctl/sysfs/daemon
thread:
1. hold 'reconfig_mutex';
2. check that rdev can be added/removed, one condition is that there is
no IO, for example:
```
raid10_remove_disk
if (atomic_read(&rdev->nr_pending))
err = -EBUSY;
```
3. do the actual operations to add/remove a rdev, one procedure is
set/clear a pointer to rdev, for example:
```
raid10_remove_disk
p = conf->mirrors[xx]
rdevp = &p->rdev/replacement
*rdevp = NULL
```
4. check if there is still no io on this rdev, if not, revert the
pointer to rdev and return failure, for example
```
raid10_remove_disk
synchronize_rcu()
if (atomic_read(&rdev->nr_pending))
err = -EBUSY
*rdevp = rdev
```
IO path is using rcu_read_lock/unlock() to access rdev, for example:
```
raid10_write_request
rcu_read_lock
rdev = rcu_dereference(mirror->rdev/replacement)
rcu_read_unlock
raid10_end_write_request
rdev = conf->mirrors[dev].rdev/replacement
-> rdev/rrdev is still used after rcu_read_unlock()
```
##### Current problems
- rcu is used wrongly;
- There are lots of places involved that old value is read, however,
many places doesn't handle this correctly;
- Between step 3 and 4, if new io is dispatched, NULL will be read for
the rdev, and data will be lost.
##### New synchronization
Similar to how blk_mq_freeze_queue() works
Add or remove disks:
1. suspend the array, this should guarantee no new io is dispatched and
wait for dispatched io to be done;
2. add or remove rdevs from array;
3. resume the array;
IO path doesn't need to change for now, and all rcu implementation can
be removed.
There are already apis to suspend/resume the array, unfortunately, they
can't be used here because:
- old apis only wait for io to be dispatched, not to be done;
- old apis is only supported for the personality that implement quiesce
callback;
- old apis must be called after the array start running;
- old apis must hold 'reconfig_mutex', and will wait for io to be done,
this behavior is risky because 'reconfig_mutex' is used for daemon
thread to update super_block and handle io. In order to prevent
potential problems, there is a weird logical that suspend array hold
'reconfig_mutex' for mddev_check_recovery() to update super_block;
Then main work is divided into 3 steps, at first make sure new apis to
suspend the array is general:
- make sure suspend array will wait for io to be done(Done by []);
- make sure suspend array can be called for all personalities(Done by
[]);
- make sure suspend array can be called at any time(Done by []);
- make sure suspend array doesn't rely on 'reconfig_mutex';
The second step is to replace old apis with new apis:
```
From:
lock reconfig_mutex
suspend array
resume array
unlock reconfig_mutex
To:
suspend array
lock reconfig_mutex
unlock reconfig_mutex
resume array
```
Finally, for the remain path that involved reconfiguration, suspend the
array first:
```
From:
// reconfiguration
To:
suspend array
// reconfiguration
resume array
```
>>> 2. In the cover letter, please also highlight that we are removing
>>> MD_ALLOW_SB_UPDATE and MD_UPDATING_SB. This is a big improvement.
>>>
>>
>> Okay.
>>> 3. Please rearrange the patch set so that the two "READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE"
>>> patches are at the beginning.
>>
>> Okay.
>>>
>>> 4. Please consider merging some patches. Current "add-api => use-api =>
>>> remove-old-api" makes it tricky to follow what is being changed. For this set,
>>> I found the diff of the whole set easier to follow than some of the big patches.
>> I refer to some other big patchset to replace an old api, for example:
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230818123232.2269-1-jack@suse.cz/
>
> Yes, this is a safe way to replace old APIs. Since the scale of this
> patchset is
> smaller, I was thinking it might not be necessary to go that path. But
> I will let
> you make the decision.
>
>> Currently I prefer to use one patch for each function point. And I do
>> merged some patches in this version, and for remaining patches, do you
>> prefer to use one patch for one file instead of one function point?(For
>> example, merge patch 10-12 for md/raid5-cache, and 13-16 for md/raid5).
>
> I think 10 should be a separate patch, and we can merge 11 and 12. We can
> merge 13-16, and maybe also 5-7 and 18-20.
>
> Thanks,
> Song
> .
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-07 2:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-28 6:15 [PATCH -next v3 00/25] md: synchronize io with array reconfiguration Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 01/25] md: use READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE for 'suspend_lo' and 'suspend_hi' Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 15:54 ` Song Liu
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 02/25] md: replace is_md_suspended() with 'mddev->suspended' in md_check_recovery() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 03/25] md: add new helpers to suspend/resume array Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 18:45 ` Song Liu
[not found] ` <0ae441ba-68db-b823-b48c-76e953d22067@huaweicloud.com>
2023-10-05 4:00 ` Song Liu
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 04/25] md: add new helpers to suspend/resume and lock/unlock array Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 05/25] md: use new apis to suspend array for suspend_lo/hi_store() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 06/25] md: use new apis to suspend array for level_store() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 07/25] md: use new apis to suspend array for serialize_policy_store() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 08/25] md/dm-raid: use new apis to suspend array Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 09/25] md/md-bitmap: use new apis to suspend array for location_store() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 10/25] md/raid5-cache: use READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE for 'conf->log' Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 11/25] md/raid5-cache: use new apis to suspend array for r5c_disable_writeback_async() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 12/25] md/raid5-cache: use new apis to suspend array for r5c_journal_mode_store() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 13/25] md/raid5: use new apis to suspend array for raid5_store_stripe_size() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 14/25] md/raid5: use new apis to suspend array for raid5_store_skip_copy() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 15/25] md/raid5: use new apis to suspend array for raid5_store_group_thread_cnt() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 16/25] md/raid5: use new apis to suspend array for raid5_change_consistency_policy() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 17/25] md/raid5: replace suspend with quiesce() callback Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 18/25] md: use new apis to suspend array for ioctls involed array reconfiguration Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 19/25] md: use new apis to suspend array for adding/removing rdev from state_store() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 20/25] md: use new apis to suspend array before mddev_create/destroy_serial_pool Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 21/25] md: cleanup mddev_create/destroy_serial_pool() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 22/25] md/md-linear: cleanup linear_add() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 23/25] md: suspend array in md_start_sync() if array need reconfiguration Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 24/25] md: remove old apis to suspend the array Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 6:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 25/25] md: rename __mddev_suspend/resume() back to mddev_suspend/resume() Yu Kuai
2023-09-28 19:15 ` [PATCH -next v3 00/25] md: synchronize io with array reconfiguration Song Liu
[not found] ` <f59cbb99-33dd-c427-2e43-5a07ab9fbf51@huaweicloud.com>
2023-10-05 3:55 ` Song Liu
2023-10-07 2:32 ` Yu Kuai [this message]
2023-10-07 2:40 ` Song Liu
2023-10-07 2:49 ` Yu Kuai
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