From: Simon Matthews <simon.d.matthews@gmail.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
st0ff@npl.de, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Use of WD20EARS with MDADM
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:52:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2q40b437201004210852k34ce5aaco468b36c3a35b7f3c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BCEFB99.9080806@tmr.com>
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
> Phillip Susi wrote:
>>
>> On 4/14/2010 3:53 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Stefan *St0fF* Huebner wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 25.03.2010 18:45, schrieb Asdo:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David Lethe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Dunn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recently Dell is selling their WD20EARS (2TB) for 90$
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This being one of the best PPG (Price Per Gigabyte) snatches I have
>>>>>>> seen, I was considering buying 8 of them for an mdadm array.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone had experience with these drives?
>>>>>>>
>>
>> I believe that these disks only come in the "green" variety. I recently
>> picked up a 1.5 tb version for testing and cheap bulk storage, and I
>> would not suggest using them in a raid array because the green drives
>> firmware automatically parks the head after 8 seconds of inactivity and
>> reduces the rpm of the disk. The constant parking can quickly wear out
>> the head under high use and there is no way to disable this "feature".
>>
>
> I hear this said, but I don't have any data to back it up. Drive vendors
> aren't stupid, so if the parking feature is likely to cause premature
> failures under warranty, I would expect that the feature would not be there,
> or that the drive would be made more robust. Maybe I have too much faith in
> greed as a design goal, but I have to wonder if load cycles are as
> destructive as seems to be the assumption.
>
> I'd love to find some real data, anecdotal stories about older drives are
> not overly helpful. Clearly there is a trade-off between energy saving,
> response, and durability, I just don't have any data from a large population
> of new (green) drives.
It's not hard data, but there was discussion of a similar issue fours
years ago related to load/unload cycles on laptops under Ubuntu:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
Simon
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-21 15:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-25 16:20 Use of WD20EARS with MDADM Andrew Dunn
2010-03-25 17:01 ` Asdo
2010-03-25 17:58 ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-25 20:23 ` John Robinson
2010-03-26 10:45 ` Asdo
2010-03-25 17:10 ` David Lethe
2010-03-25 17:45 ` Asdo
2010-03-28 16:19 ` Stefan *St0fF* Huebner
2010-03-29 16:59 ` WD20EARS data Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner
2010-03-29 17:13 ` Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner
2010-04-14 19:53 ` Use of WD20EARS with MDADM Bill Davidsen
2010-04-19 14:17 ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 13:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-04-21 13:45 ` Tim Small
2010-04-21 14:32 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2010-04-21 21:58 ` Berkey B Walker
2010-05-02 22:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-05-03 0:08 ` Berkey B Walker
2010-04-21 15:14 ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 16:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-04-21 17:36 ` Mark Knecht
2010-04-21 18:40 ` Tim Small
2010-04-21 19:01 ` Mark Knecht
2010-04-21 19:31 ` Clinton Lee Taylor
2010-04-22 0:51 ` Steven Haigh
2010-04-21 19:33 ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 20:36 ` Mark Knecht
2010-05-12 13:06 ` Tim Small
2010-04-22 11:40 ` wdidle3 Tim Small
2010-04-22 16:13 ` Use of WD20EARS with MDADM Khelben Blackstaff
2010-04-22 18:16 ` Simon Matthews
2010-04-22 19:44 ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-22 23:23 ` Mark Knecht
2010-04-23 0:03 ` Richard Scobie
2010-04-23 1:29 ` Mark Knecht
2010-04-23 3:49 ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-23 3:44 ` Phillip Susi
2010-04-21 15:52 ` Simon Matthews [this message]
2010-04-21 19:24 ` Richard Scobie
2010-03-26 20:27 ` Peter Kieser
2010-03-26 20:59 ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-26 21:01 ` Peter Kieser
2010-03-26 21:06 ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-26 21:16 ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-26 21:19 ` Richard Scobie
2010-03-26 22:38 ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-26 22:47 ` Peter Kieser
2010-03-26 22:50 ` Matt Garman
2010-03-26 22:51 ` Peter Kieser
2010-03-26 23:01 ` David Rees
2010-03-27 23:31 ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-26 21:45 ` Matt Garman
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