* Raid on USB2 ?
@ 2006-02-17 10:54 Ken Walker
2006-02-17 11:03 ` Francois Barre
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From: Ken Walker @ 2006-02-17 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-raid
Anybody tried a Raid1 or Raid5 on USB2.
If so did it crawl or was it usable ?
Many thanks
Ken :o)
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2006-02-17 10:54 Raid on USB2 ? Ken Walker
@ 2006-02-17 11:03 ` Francois Barre
2006-02-17 14:30 ` Ewan Grantham
2006-02-18 1:11 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Francois Barre @ 2006-02-17 11:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ken Walker; +Cc: linux-raid
2006/2/17, Ken Walker <ken.walker@manchester.ac.uk>:
> Anybody tried a Raid1 or Raid5 on USB2.
>
> If so did it crawl or was it usable ?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Ken :o)
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Well... Let's say... Good luck.
I am experimenting raid1 and raid5 over firewire, which is by far much
more stable (in terms of bandwidth) than usb2. According to the tests
I made, benchmarking usb2 and firewire makes usb2 dangerous to use :
connection hangs, bus collision is somewhat hasardous, bandwidth is
not really granted.
Technically, it is really possible : you will have your usb2 drives
accessible as scsi drives, put your raid on them, test them. But
sincerely, good luck.
Regards,
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* Re: Raid on USB2 ?
2006-02-17 10:54 Raid on USB2 ? Ken Walker
2006-02-17 11:03 ` Francois Barre
@ 2006-02-17 14:30 ` Ewan Grantham
2006-02-18 1:11 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Ewan Grantham @ 2006-02-17 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ken Walker; +Cc: linux-raid
I have a six disk RAID-5 array that I run using embedded Linux
(coLinux) to serve the array up using Samba to my Windows XP OS.
I've been doing this for a number of months (the dark tale is explained at:
http://a1.blogspot.com/2005/08/step-by-step-to-windows-raid-using.html),
and have had no data corruption - even when the machine has crashed
due to Windows or Power issues.
Array runs fast enough to serve video files and watch them - though
more commonly I am just copying files around. Write times are nothing
to brag about, but they aren't horrible.
Hope this helps,
Ewan
On 2/17/06, Ken Walker <ken.walker@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> Anybody tried a Raid1 or Raid5 on USB2.
>
> If so did it crawl or was it usable ?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Ken :o)
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* Re: Raid on USB2 ?
2006-02-17 10:54 Raid on USB2 ? Ken Walker
2006-02-17 11:03 ` Francois Barre
2006-02-17 14:30 ` Ewan Grantham
@ 2006-02-18 1:11 ` Daniel Pittman
2006-02-18 9:48 ` PFC
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From: Daniel Pittman @ 2006-02-18 1:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-raid
Ken Walker <ken.walker@manchester.ac.uk> writes:
> Anybody tried a Raid1 or Raid5 on USB2.
>
> If so did it crawl or was it usable ?
Yes, I used this for two by two drive RAID-1 arrays.
It was usable, but not pleasantly. The machine became very I/O bound,
with human scale delays introduced into previously "instant" processes
such as opening an IMAP mailbox, scanning a directory listing, etc.
I wouldn't advise more than two or three drives per USB controller, and
would expect poor performance even then.
Daniel
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2006-02-18 1:11 ` Daniel Pittman
@ 2006-02-18 9:48 ` PFC
2006-02-18 9:56 ` Gordon Henderson
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From: PFC @ 2006-02-18 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Pittman, linux-raid
>> Anybody tried a Raid1 or Raid5 on USB2.
>> If so did it crawl or was it usable ?
Why not external SATA ?
After all, the little cute SATA cables are a lot more suited to this than
the old, ugly flat PATA cables...
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* Re: Raid on USB2 ?
2006-02-18 9:48 ` PFC
@ 2006-02-18 9:56 ` Gordon Henderson
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From: Gordon Henderson @ 2006-02-18 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-raid
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, PFC wrote:
> >> Anybody tried a Raid1 or Raid5 on USB2.
> >> If so did it crawl or was it usable ?
>
> Why not external SATA ?
> After all, the little cute SATA cables are a lot more suited to this than
> the old, ugly flat PATA cables...
Until you break a motherboard or drive SATA socket )-:
SATA might be good, but the fscking sockets are rubbish. At least you knew
where you were with good old 40-pin flat cables!
</rant>
Gordon
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* re: Raid on USB2 ?
@ 2006-02-19 15:36 Alex Davis
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From: Alex Davis @ 2006-02-19 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-raid, ken.walker
>Anybody tried a Raid1 or Raid5 on USB2.
>
>If so did it crawl or was it usable ?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Ken :o)
I have a USB raid5 consisting of 4 200GB drives. hdparm -t on the md device
gives 42 MB/s, which is nearly twice as fast as the internal drive (this is
a laptop). Since the RAID is storing large files (smallest file is about 1.5
MB), I used a stripe size of 128 K, and specified '-T largefile' to mke2fs.
All the disks, USB-to-IDE converters, and the hub are in one ATX case. It's
used to store pics from hi-res digital cameras, and video from camcorders.
I've been using the RAID for 6 months with no problems.
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