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From: "Steve Wise" <swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
To: 'Leon Romanovsky' <leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	'Doug Ledford' <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	'Idan Burstein' <idanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH rdma-next 0/3] Support out of order data placement
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 12:18:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <074a01d2e39f$edc28860$c9479920$@opengridcomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170612064918.12510-1-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org [mailto:linux-rdma-
> owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Leon Romanovsky
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:49 AM
> To: Doug Ledford
> Cc: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Idan Burstein
> Subject: [PATCH rdma-next 0/3] Support out of order data placement
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> This patch set which is based on v4.12-rc4 comes from Parav and it
> adds support for out of order data placement for RDMA read and
> write requests.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ---
> >From Parav:
> 
> In certain fabric configurations IB packets for a given QP may take up
> different paths in a network from source to destination. This results
> into reaching packets out of order at the receiver side. Instead of
> dropping packets, handling out of order packets can improve overall
> network performance in following ways:
>  * improve network utilization by avoiding retransmission
>  * avoiding latency increase due to retransmission
> 
> This patchset allows HCA to expose out of order data placement
> capability to users who can take benefit of such feature.
> 
> This is optional feature of an HCA and enablement of this feature
> is done on per QP basis. The optional QP attribute is set when a QP
> state is changed from INIT to RTR.
> 
> Out of order data placement capability indicates that if HCA receives
> out of order RDMA packets, their data placement can be done at the
> desired memory destination given in the packet(s). This is applicable
> to RDMA read and write operations.
> 
> Send queue work requests are still completed in-order regardless of
> their data placement order at requester or responder side.
> 
> In-order semantics is always guaranteed by setting the Fence
> indicator for appropriate WRs.
> 
> An application shall not depend on the contents of the RDMA write buffer
> at the responder until one of the following occurred:
> - Completion of the RDMA WRITE with immediate data receive completion.
> - Arrival and completion of the subsequent SEND message.
> - Update of a memory element by subsequent ATOMIC operation.
> 
> An application shall not depend on the contents of the RDMA read buffer
> at the requester until one of the following occurred:
> - Completion of the RDMA READ work request if requested or such
>   work request completes with error status.
> - Completion of the subsequent work request.


Given the application follows the above semantics, why does it care if data is
placed out of order?  IE Why does this impact the application API at all?
 
Steve.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-12 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-12  6:49 [PATCH rdma-next 0/3] Support out of order data placement Leon Romanovsky
     [not found] ` <20170612064918.12510-1-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12  6:49   ` [PATCH rdma-next 1/3] IB/core: Expose out of order data placement capability Leon Romanovsky
2017-06-12  6:49   ` [PATCH rdma-next 2/3] IB/uverbs: Enable user space programs to use out of order placement Leon Romanovsky
2017-06-12  6:49   ` [PATCH rdma-next 3/3] IB/mlx5: Support out of order data placement Leon Romanovsky
2017-06-12 15:28   ` [PATCH rdma-next 0/3] " Bart Van Assche
     [not found]     ` <1497281280.2770.1.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 16:19       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]         ` <VI1PR0502MB3008478FC7C70D1F398FE2B2D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 16:29           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20170612162917.GA11993-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 16:42               ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                 ` <VI1PR0502MB3008EA451DA9ECEBECE27362D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 16:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20170612164343.GA12435-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 16:53                       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                         ` <VI1PR0502MB300831A1560531E67B29589DD1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 16:55                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20170612165536.GB12435-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 17:11                               ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                 ` <VI1PR0502MB30089EDC828A142338B1EE06D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 17:14                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20170612171436.GA12739-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 17:28                                       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                         ` <VI1PR0502MB3008304F8465C19ACCFF3D68D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 17:32                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20170612173221.GA13302-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 17:46                                               ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                 ` <VI1PR0502MB30081FD74492E97043F45BD8D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 17:51                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-06-12 21:09                               ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                 ` <6747e257-67b0-a364-be21-04f73ef82ffe-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 21:32                                   ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                     ` <VI1PR0502MB30080B672B80836FF0A328DCD1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 21:41                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20170612214135.GB30578-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 21:59                                           ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                             ` <VI1PR0502MB30087762738A4E02A1DA24D0D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 22:07                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                 ` <20170612220730.GA32510-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 22:16                                                   ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                     ` <VI1PR0502MB30088258D7BADC83B0609F38D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 22:21                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-06-12 22:19                                       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                         ` <475e1873-e842-ecb9-d260-34777da57e51-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 22:54                                           ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                             ` <VI1PR0502MB3008B7FE60CAB3BD49907A1BD1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 23:44                                               ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                 ` <d3a436a0-9ace-b11a-2e4c-387fc575877e-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 23:59                                                   ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                     ` <VI1PR0502MB3008E04612EED6BC83F37115D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13  0:11                                                       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                         ` <fbdcf05b-ccd8-bd9c-c9c8-86f373303250-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13  0:36                                                           ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                             ` <VI1PR0502MB30089271EB542493AA58060CD1C20-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13  1:30                                                               ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                                 ` <fb11f261-b80b-f71a-8076-204706267798-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-13 19:17                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-06-23 16:03                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2017-07-19  5:33                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                     ` <VI1PR0502MB3008D488FEE8A7104A7B0A7CD1A60-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 17:12                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20170719171211.GB25714-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20 15:06                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2017-07-22  2:29                                                                       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                                         ` <142c2fed-baa5-1295-1458-be765c94b957-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-22  4:50                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                             ` <VI1PR0502MB300886ED1B5B1363B55F53F0D1A50-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-22  5:03                                                                               ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <e5cee768-586c-516a-6056-ea4a44f89134-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-22  5:32                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <VI1PR0502MB30089915EB792CD20CA9D179D1A50-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-22 14:51                                                                                       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <4444a96a-c1e6-ad33-204a-680982e19bfe-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-22 15:11                                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2017-07-22 16:09                                                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <20170722160939.GA30007-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-22 17:32                                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                                 ` <VI1PR0502MB3008E483BB36F944C2E212ACD1A50-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-22 21:27                                                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                                     ` <20170722212706.GA14714-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 18:14                                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                                         ` <VI1PR0502MB300871C35E1CC06EB378D6C8D1B30-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 19:00                                                                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                                             ` <20170801190052.GA31205-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 22:06                                                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                                                 ` <VI1PR0502MB3008D65E9568764C4A781230D1B30-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 23:37                                                                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                                                     ` <20170801233754.GB10239-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02  0:30                                                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                                                                                         ` <VI1PR0502MB300860BDA4E6BD0B10F5DB1ED1B00-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02  2:48                                                                                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-06-27  9:47                               ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-06-12 16:29           ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]             ` <1497284956.2770.8.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 16:51               ` Parav Pandit
2017-06-12 17:18   ` Steve Wise [this message]
2017-06-12 17:37     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]       ` <VI1PR0502MB3008CE85A4F274886B74DF2BD1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 19:06         ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]           ` <3fa7a4b5-5c19-8c6a-d78b-93219a9be888-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 19:19             ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]               ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB142A9B-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 20:14                 ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                   ` <VI1PR0502MB300885A1DD676E1649CDB268D1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 20:35                     ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]                       ` <b5279c09-027f-e374-ffde-7f236c52322c-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 20:46                         ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                           ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB142BEC-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 20:57                             ` Steve Wise
2017-06-12 21:02                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <20170612210259.GA25652-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 21:18                                   ` Steve Wise
2017-06-12 21:22                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-06-12 21:53                                     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                       ` <VI1PR0502MB30082486BC3B1669FE48764ED1CD0-o1MPJYiShExKsLr+rGaxW8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 21:57                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                           ` <20170612215741.GA31693-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 22:00                                             ` Parav Pandit
2017-06-13  5:29                                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-06-12 20:41                     ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                       ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB142BC8-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-12 21:25                         ` Parav Pandit

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