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From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
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	Thomas
Subject: Re: ioremap_uc() followed by set_memory_wc() - burrying MTRR
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 14:53:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1429728791.121496.10.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150422161755.GA19500-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

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On Wed, 2015-04-22 at 10:17 -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 05:23:28PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:39:39PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 01:39:07AM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > > Mike, do you think the time is right to just remove the iPath driver?
> > > > 
> > > > With PAT now being default the driver effectively won't work
> > > > with write-combining on modern kernels. Even if systems are old
> > > > they likely had PAT support, when upgrading kernels PAT will work
> > > > but write-combing won't on ipath.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, do you mean the driver already doesn't get WC? Or do you mean
> > > after some more pending patches are applied?
> > 
> > No, you have to consider the system used and the effects of calls used
> > on the driver in light of this table:
> 
> So, just to be clear:
> 
> At some point Linux started setting the PAT bits during
> ioremap_nocache, which overrides MTRR, and at that point the driver
> became broken on all PAT capable systems?
> 
> Not only that, but we've only just noticed it now, and no user ever
> complained?
> 
> So that means either no users exist, or all users are on non-PAT
> systems?
> 
> This driver only works on x86-64 systems. Are there any x86-64 systems
> that are not PAT capable? IIRC even the first Opteron had PAT, but my
> memory is fuzzy from back then :|
> 
> > Another option in order to enable this type of checks at run time
> > and still be able to build the driver on standard distributions and
> > just prevent if from loading on PAT systems is to have some code in
> > place which would prevent the driver from loading if PAT was
> > enabled, this would enable folks to disable PAT via a kernel command
> > line option, and if that was used then the driver probe would
> > complete.
> 
> This seems like a reasonble option to me. At the very least we might
> learn if anyone is still using these cards.
> 
> I'd also love to remove the driver if it turns out there are actually
> no users. qib substantially replaces it except for a few very old
> cards.

To be precise, the split is that ipath powers the old HTX bus cards that
only work in AMD systems, qib is all PCI-e cards.  I still have a few
HTX cards, but I no longer have any systems with HTX slots, so we
haven't even used this driver in testing for 3 or 4 years now.  And
these are all old SDR cards, where the performance numbers were 800MB/s
with WC enabled, 50MB/s without it.

> Mike?
> 
> Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-22 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-15 20:42 ioremap_uc() followed by set_memory_wc() - burrying MTRR Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-15 22:15 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-15 22:50 ` Andy Walls
     [not found]   ` <1429138212.1899.34.camel-xioobY1GIEhKttHedORAlB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 23:52     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-16  0:33       ` Andy Walls
     [not found] ` <CALCETrV0B7rp08-VYjp5=1CWJp7=xTUTBYo3uGxX317RxAQT+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 20:56   ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-21 22:46   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-21 22:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <20150421225732.GA17356-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21 23:39         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]           ` <20150421233907.GA5622-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  5:39             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-22 15:23               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-22 15:54                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-22 15:59                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                 ` <20150422152328.GB5622-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 16:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-22 16:51                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                     ` <20150422161755.GA19500-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 18:53                       ` Doug Ledford [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <1429728791.121496.10.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 19:05                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-22 19:10                             ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 19:14                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-04-22 20:46                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-22 20:58                             ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 16:53                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-22 17:07                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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