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From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Dave Goodell (dgoodell)"
	<dgoodell-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Hefty,
	Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] IB/core: Add Core Capability flags to ib_device
Date: Fri, 08 May 2015 23:32:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1431142328.2407.488.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20BA79B2-9DA5-49B3-8455-BD4021CB882C-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

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On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 20:22 +0000, Dave Goodell (dgoodell) wrote:
> On May 5, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> >> From: linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org [mailto:linux-rdma-
> >> owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Hefty, Sean
> > 
> >>> I thought USNIC_UDP had an embedded USNIC protocol header inside the
> >>> UDP header.  That would make it a UDP_ENCAP protocol.
> >> 
> >> Someone from Cisco can correct me, but USNIC supports 2 protocols.  Just
> >> plain UDP, and a proprietary protocol that runs over Ethernet, but uses the
> >> same EtherType as RoCE.  I thought these could both be active on the same
> >> port at the same time.
> >> 
> > 
> > 'protocol' refers to what your device generates when you do a post_send() on 
> > some QP.
> > In the RoCE case, it is IBTA transport headers + payload over UDP encapsulation
> > over IP. In the USNIC case, you might want the protocol to refer to addition
> > information the distinguishes this wire protocol rather than just "I am sending
> > UDP packets"...
> 
> In the case that usNIC is operating in UDP mode (which is the
> overwhelming majority of the cases), there is absolutely no additional
> protocol that ends up on the wire or headers in the user buffers
> besides UDP/IP/Ethernet.  They are 100% plain UDP packets, they just
> happen to be sent via OS-bypass queues instead of traveling through the
> kernel networking stack.  
> 
> [^^^^^ there continues to be confusion about this for some reason, but
> I don't know why]

I really need to just sit down and read your driver front to back.  The
confusion probably comes from people (such as myself) that first think
about this and go "Well, if you have multiple queue pairs, and UDP, then
you need a header to tell what QP a packet goes to" (which assumes a
RoCE like usage of UDP where all packets go to the same UDP address)
where your actual usage is probably more iWARP like in that the IP/UDP
SRC/DST combo maps to a specific QP, right?

-- 
Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
              GPG KeyID: 0E572FDD


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-09  3:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-04  6:14 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add Core Capability Bits to use in Management helpers ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found] ` <1430720099-32512-1-git-send-email-ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04  6:14   ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] IB/core: Add Core Capability flags to ib_device ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]     ` <1430720099-32512-2-git-send-email-ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 14:41       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]         ` <1430750492.2407.9.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 16:40           ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]             ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FCA17C-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 17:38               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                 ` <1430761111.2407.85.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 18:26                   ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                     ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FCA2F1-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 19:40                       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                         ` <1430768425.2407.143.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 21:07                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20150504210741.GA20839-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 19:59                               ` Liran Liss
2015-05-04 20:21                       ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
2015-05-05 19:51                       ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                         ` <HE1PR05MB1418DF0669B6E6CABE1D9F1EB1D10-eBadYZ65MZ87O8BmmlM1zNqRiQSDpxhJvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 20:22                           ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
     [not found]                             ` <20BA79B2-9DA5-49B3-8455-BD4021CB882C-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05 20:29                               ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                 ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FCAEFD-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 14:25                                   ` Liran Liss
2015-05-09  3:32                               ` Doug Ledford [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <1431142328.2407.488.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11 22:19                                   ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
     [not found]                                     ` <CCC397F5-31B6-4A35-94E0-7EAAE6C4803F-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11 22:39                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20150511223930.GA15628-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-12 17:41                                           ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
     [not found]                                             ` <DC760F33-F704-4763-AEA3-6DE9016D0687-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-12 18:08                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-11  6:42                               ` ira.weiny
     [not found]                                 ` <20150511064232.GA3042-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11 22:26                                   ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
     [not found]                                     ` <D72B89F6-B333-4DC2-9BA7-CB45EBC31843-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-12  2:13                                       ` Weiny, Ira
     [not found]                                         ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510E1107C20E-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-12 17:56                                           ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
2015-05-05 19:27               ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                 ` <HE1PR05MB1418E58A6EB92D92B78C76A0B1D10-eBadYZ65MZ87O8BmmlM1zNqRiQSDpxhJvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-08 18:56                   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                     ` <1431111412.2407.463.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-08 20:06                       ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                         ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FCD719-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-08 20:30                           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                             ` <1431117051.2407.468.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-08 20:56                               ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                 ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FCD78C-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-08 21:48                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20150508214855.GA3917-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 20:41                                       ` Liran Liss
2015-05-04 16:42       ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]         ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FCA192-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 16:48           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]             ` <1430758097.2407.59.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 16:53               ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                 ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FCA1D9-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 16:56                   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                     ` <1430758566.2407.62.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 17:25                       ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                         ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FCA217-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 17:31                           ` Weiny, Ira
     [not found]                             ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510E11069818-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 17:34                               ` Hefty, Sean
2015-05-04 18:36       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20150504183657.GA20586-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 22:32           ` ira.weiny
     [not found]             ` <20150504223234.GB10115-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 23:16               ` ira.weiny
     [not found]                 ` <20150504231622.GE10115-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 23:52                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-04  6:14   ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] IB/core: Replace query_protocol callback with Core Capability flags check ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
2015-05-04  6:14   ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] IB/core: Convert cap_ib_mad to core_cap_flags bit mask ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]     ` <1430720099-32512-4-git-send-email-ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 16:49       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-05-04 18:46       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20150504184610.GB20586-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-04 22:43           ` ira.weiny
     [not found]             ` <20150504224342.GD10115-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05  8:00               ` Michael Wang
2015-05-05  8:26           ` Michael Wang
2015-05-04  6:14   ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] IB/core: Add rdma_dev_max_mad_size call ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
2015-05-04  6:14   ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] IB/core: Add cap_opa_mad helper using RDMA_CORE_CAP_OPA_MAD flag ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w

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