From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Haggai Eran <haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Guy Shapiro <guysh-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Shachar Raindel <raindel-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Yotam Kenneth <yotamke-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 10:07:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1432822057.114391.26.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55671309.6080303-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
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On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 16:07 +0300, Haggai Eran wrote:
> On 26/05/2015 16:34, Doug Ledford wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-05-17 at 08:50 +0300, Haggai Eran wrote:
> > This is a core feature more than anything else. Namespaces for RDMA
> > devices is not unique to IB or RoCE in any way. Yet no thought has been
> > given to how this will work universally across all of the RDMA capable
> > devices (mainly I'm talking about iWARP here...
> I don't agree. It is true we have are not planning to provide an iWarp
> implementation for network namespaces, as we lack the capacity and the
> expertise. However, I think that the changes we proposed to the rdma_cm
> module will work with iWarp too. Perhaps with some of Jason's
> suggestions it will be smoother, but even in the current design, I think
> that if iWarp drivers can provide iw_cm with the network device on which
> a request is received, then it should be simple to modify it for
> namespace support without significant change to rdma_cm.
My request wasn't for a functional implementation, just a statement that
you had in fact thought about it and, as you say here, would expect it
to work (and preferably why as well).
> Well, because the RDMA subsystem supports a very diverse set of devices,
> I think there are few people who know the details of all hardware types
> well. If we are going to evolve the generic parts of the stack, we have
> to cooperate. We have to rely on the knowledge of people on the mailing
> list to say whether the feature is well designed for all hardware types,
> or whether changes are warranted. In this specific case, the patches has
> been on the list since February. I think it is enough time to allow
> anyone who is interested in network namespace support to chime in.
You would think that, but sometimes important information comes from
totally different places. See mine and Jason's comments back and forth
in the SRIOV thread started by Or.
Long story short:
ip link add dev ib0 name ib0.1 type ipoib
is totally broken on at least all Red Hat OSes. It will require
reworking of the network scripts and NetworkManager assumptions to make
it work. It will also break DHCP on the interface as pkey/guid are the
only items that uniquely identify DHCP clients. The net result of our
talks was that it is likely that each interface on the same pkey will
require an alias GUID per child interface in order to keep things
workable.
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-17 5:50 [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:50 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 02/12] IB/addr: Pass network namespace as a parameter Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:50 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 03/12] IB/core: Find the network namespace matching connection parameters Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <1431841868-28063-4-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150519182616.GF18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 14:48 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 04/12] IB/ipoib: Return IPoIB devices " Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <1431841868-28063-5-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150519182810.GG18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 15:17 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 23:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150519235502.GB26634-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 5:33 ` Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <555D6E41.10606-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 5:48 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJ3xEMjN+o=vC4abAeG5EuOo3Y1gSyh1qPDseA_aaYmoLWAunw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 6:33 ` Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <555D7C4A.2060708-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 10:31 ` Or Gerlitz
2015-05-21 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150521174336.GA6771-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 11:51 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 15:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-21 5:48 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 05/12] IB/cm: Share listening CM IDs Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 18:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150519183545.GH18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 22:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150519223502.GA26324-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 8:08 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 17:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-21 7:07 ` Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <1431841868-28063-1-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-17 5:50 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 01/12] IB/core: Add rwsem to allow reading device list or client list Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 06/12] IB/cm: Expose service ID in request events Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 07/12] IB/cma: Refactor RDMA IP CM private-data parsing code Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 08/12] IB/cma: Add compare_data checks to the RDMA CM module Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 12/12] IB/ucma: Take the network namespace from the process Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 09/12] IB/cma: Separate port allocation to network namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 10/12] IB/cma: Share CM IDs between namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-17 5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 11/12] IB/cma: Add support for network namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 14:30 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM Yann Droneaud
2015-05-19 14:54 ` Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <555B4EBE.7010900-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 16:39 ` Parav Pandit
2015-05-19 18:01 ` Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <1432058488417.98688-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:42 ` Parav Pandit
2015-05-19 18:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150519183843.GI18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:44 ` Parav Pandit
[not found] ` <CAGgvQNTXAWkQWzBBrQfk39GaCQ2ck63AhgURpYFFBPTbkpx4kg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 19:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-26 13:34 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <1432647280.28905.107.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-26 16:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-26 17:46 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <1432662396.28905.157.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-26 18:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-28 13:22 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 15:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150528154633.GB2962-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 10:07 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 13:15 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-26 17:55 ` Christian Benvenuti (benve)
2015-05-28 13:07 ` Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <55671309.6080303-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 14:07 ` Doug Ledford [this message]
[not found] ` <1432822057.114391.26.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 16:21 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <55674077.5040707-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2015-05-28 18:22 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <1432837360.114391.35.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 19:05 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJ3xEMh2T5-56rFxWVdct2uAZYW1ZrKivWfS45V-mvhAfwyGaA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:55 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <1432850150.114391.56.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 10:03 ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-03 16:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150603161447.GC12073-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 19:05 ` Or Gerlitz
2015-06-03 19:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150603195325.GC7902-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 20:07 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJ3xEMiO+hEzOJ2oJ5G-mmBeaX4ZHvUyhNSAzsrRDui6dFjvCg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 21:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-06-04 9:41 ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-04 16:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-06-03 23:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150603234811.GA15128-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04 6:24 ` Haggai Eran
[not found] ` <556FEF25.80409-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04 16:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20150604164058.GB27699-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 7:52 ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-08 16:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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