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From: Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud-RlY5vtjFyJ3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Yuval Shaia <yuval.shaia-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] IB/ipoib: CSUM support in connected mode
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:58:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1438264693.9344.19.camel@opteya.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1438256764-9077-1-git-send-email-yuval.shaia-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

Le jeudi 30 juillet 2015 à 04:46 -0700, Yuval Shaia a écrit :
> This enhancement suggest the usage of IB CRC instead of CSUM in IPoIB 
> CM. IPoIB CM uses RC (Reliable Connection) which guarantees the 
> corruption free delivery of the packet.
> 
> InfiniBand uses 32b CRC which provides stronger data integrity 
> protection compare to 16b IP Checksum.

InfiniBand 32b CRC <=> Ethernet 32b CRC, it's link layer, layer 2.

IPv4 checksum is at another level, it's internet layer, layer 3.

>  So, there is no added value that IP/TCP Checksum provides in the IB 
> world.
> 

Sure, IPv4 checksum is a thing of the past: checksum was dropped from
IP header in IPv6: it assumes the lower layer, such as Ethernet,
provides the required integrety check.

I think not checking the IPv4 checksum should be a choice, carefully
thought, for inside a fabric, as I understand your proposal, packet
with invalid checksum will be allowed to go in/out of the fabric.

It sound like it's a departure from the behavior one can expect from an
IPv4 network stack.

> The proposal is to tell network stack that IPoIB-CM supports IP 
> Checksum offload. This enables the kernel to save the time of 
> checksum calculation of IPoIB CM packets. Network sends the IP packet 
> without adding the IP Checksum to the header. On the receive side, 
> IPoIB driver again tells the network stack that IP Checksum is good 
> for the incoming packets and network stack avoids the IP Checksum 
> calculations.
> 
> During connection establishment the driver determine if peer supports
> IB CRC as checksum. This is done so driver will be able to calculate
> checksum before transmiting the packet in case the peer does not 
> support this feature.
> 

Two questions:

- What will see tool such as wireshark/tcpdump when sniffing checksum
-less IPv4 packets sent/received on IPoIB interface ?

- What might happen if such checksum-less IPv4 packet is later routed to a different IPv4 network ?

> With this enhancement throughput is increased by 60%.
> 

> Signed-off-by: Yuval Shaia <yuval.shaia-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Regards.

-- 
Yann Droneaud
OPTEYA


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-30 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-30 11:46 [PATCH] IB/ipoib: CSUM support in connected mode Yuval Shaia
     [not found] ` <1438256764-9077-1-git-send-email-yuval.shaia-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30 13:58   ` Yann Droneaud [this message]
     [not found]     ` <1438264693.9344.19.camel-RlY5vtjFyJ3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30 15:20       ` Yuval Shaia
2015-07-30 15:51         ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]           ` <55BA47F0.5080504-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30 17:15             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20150730171538.GA25282-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30 20:46                 ` Yuval Shaia
2015-07-30 21:00                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20150730210018.GA32451-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-18 20:27                       ` Yuval Shaia
2015-11-23 18:29                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-30 20:37             ` Yuval Shaia
2015-11-18 10:46       ` Yuval Shaia
2015-11-24  9:45         ` Yann Droneaud
     [not found]           ` <1448358314.19858.13.camel-RlY5vtjFyJ3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 18:59             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-30 16:38   ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]     ` <55BA531E.6060403-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30 20:09       ` Yuval Shaia
2015-07-31  2:03         ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]           ` <55BAD76A.1070700-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-03 20:29             ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]               ` <55E8ADB9.4090900-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-06 11:27                 ` Yuval Shaia
2015-11-18 10:27             ` Yuval Shaia

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