From: Knut Omang <knut.omang-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Sean Hefty <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] ib_uverbs: Avoid vendor specific masking of attributes in query_qp
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:05:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1473692723.3545.21.camel@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1472837728.9410.340.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 19:35 +0200, Knut Omang wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 11:10 -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 06:45:52AM +0200, Knut Omang wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 20:13 -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 02:09:26AM +0200, Knut Omang wrote:
> > > > > This commit removes the implementation and use of the modify_qp_mask
> > > > > helper function from the generic OFED implementation and into individual
> > > > > device drivers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Like with use of the ib_modify_qp_is_ok function it should be up to
> > > > > each device driver how to handle bits set in the attribute masks.
> > > > >
> > > > > With the modify_qp_mask function applied in the generic code,
> > > > > drivers would not see the bits that the user process actually sets.
> > > > >
> > > > > The restrictions imposed by the filter are also beyond what
> > > > > is imposed by the Infiniband standard, and would also limit
> > > > > future drivers or hardware from checking for unsupported or
> > > > > invalid settings.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not excited about this direction. It is not OK for different
> > > > drivers to use different mask algorithms, they must all behave the
> > > > same.
> > >
> > > The problem I am solving here is that SIF expects (and requires) some of
> > > the bits that the user correctly sets, but that Mellanox either ignore or need to
> > > be 0. So when that mask is applied to the user input, the value that reaches
> > > the SIF driver is not correct from SIFs perspective.
> > > If the values goes through as the ULP sets them, then all is fine.
> >
> > I guess I still don't understand. SIF and mlx cannot have different
> > behavior here.
>
> Rest assure, being the new kid on the block here, of course we need to
> work with existing applications. We try to test with whatever we can get our
> hands on, and make sure we behave sensibly..
>
> > How is the application writer to know what to do?
>
> This masking applies to XRC only.
> The application does not need to do anything, it treats the XRC QP as any other
> RC QP and attempt similar modify_qp operations.
> Mlx chooses to ignore some of the bits provided.
>
> > Can you give a concrete example of the problem?
>
> Maybe someone from Mellanox can explain the reason
> for having the filtering there in the first place,
> and only from user mode XRC QPs?
Getting some help from git blame here:
The modify_qp_mask function was introduced by this commit:
9977f4f64bfeb5d907a793a6880aab2d43b0bed2 by Sean Hefty.
Can I ask why this function was introduced, and if it is still needed?
Thanks,
Knut
>
> Knut
>
> > Jason
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-02 0:09 [PATCH 0/9] SIF related verbs patches Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472774969-18997-1-git-send-email-knut.omang-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 1/9] ib_mad: incoming sminfo SMPs gets discarded if no process_mad function is registered Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472774969-18997-2-git-send-email-knut.omang-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-06 14:01 ` Hal Rosenstock
[not found] ` <57867d7f-cc9f-5ec2-6632-c552e6469e40-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-07 11:42 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1473248532.3103.51.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-08 11:33 ` Hal Rosenstock
[not found] ` <098f69ae-6940-589a-e9ad-c65e34c958b7-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-08 17:22 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1473355350.569.5.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-08 19:02 ` Hal Rosenstock
[not found] ` <2eddf795-71bb-1866-42d9-8a3ba3d512d4-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-09 2:23 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1473387784.569.17.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-09 14:24 ` Hal Rosenstock
[not found] ` <37195bbc-0db0-8054-2174-8dc0faf7c692-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-12 9:09 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1473671364.17998.17.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-12 14:03 ` Hal Rosenstock
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 2/9] ib_umem: Add a new, more generic ib_umem_get_attrs Knut Omang
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 3/9] ib_umem: With the new ib_umem_get_attrs, simplify ib_umem_get Knut Omang
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 4/9] ib: Add udata argument to create_ah Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472774969-18997-5-git-send-email-knut.omang-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 0:38 ` kbuild test robot
2016-09-02 0:39 ` kbuild test robot
[not found] ` <201609020848.QliVPrIS%fengguang.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 8:01 ` Knut Omang
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 5/9] ib_uverbs: Add padding to end align ib_uverbs_reg_mr_resp Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472774969-18997-6-git-send-email-knut.omang-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 2:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160902020945.GB30057-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 7:54 ` Knut Omang
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 6/9] ib_uverbs: Avoid vendor specific masking of attributes in query_qp Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472774969-18997-7-git-send-email-knut.omang-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 2:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160902021300.GC30057-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 4:45 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472791552.9410.258.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 17:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160902171008.GE24997-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 17:35 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472837728.9410.340.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-12 15:05 ` Knut Omang [this message]
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 7/9] ib_{uverbs/core}: add new ib_create_qp_ex with udata arg Knut Omang
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 8/9] ib_uverbs: Support for kernel implementation of XRC Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472774969-18997-9-git-send-email-knut.omang-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 2:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160902021640.GD30057-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 7:55 ` Knut Omang
2016-09-02 0:09 ` [PATCH 9/9] ib_verbs: Add a new qp create flag to request features for Ethernet over IB Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472774969-18997-10-git-send-email-knut.omang-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 2:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160902021729.GE30057-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 5:04 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472792670.9410.276.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 11:00 ` Knut Omang
[not found] ` <1472814057.3975.47.camel-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 16:19 ` Santosh Shilimkar
[not found] ` <b38c5cf6-4e07-33eb-8704-284498481bb6-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 17:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160902171107.GF24997-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-02 17:14 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2016-09-02 16:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160902163451.GC24997-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-07 17:33 ` Knut Omang
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