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From: Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Joe Damato <jdamato@fastly.com>
Cc: Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	nalramli@fastly.com, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	"open list:MELLANOX MLX5 core VPI driver"
	<linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next v4 2/2] net/mlx5e: Add per queue netdev-genl stats
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 10:40:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15007808-b5b1-441c-9a20-94195330b245@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240606171942.4226a854@kernel.org>


On 07/06/2024 3:19, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 14:54:40 -0700 Joe Damato wrote:
>>>> Compare the values in /proc/net/dev match the output of cli for the same
>>>> device, even while the device is down.
>>>>
>>>> Note that while the device is down, per queue stats output nothing
>>>> (because the device is down there are no queues):
>>>
>>> This part is not true anymore.
>>
>> It is true with this patch applied and running the command below.
>> Maybe I should have been more explicit that using cli.py outputs []
>> when scope = queue, which could be an internal cli.py thing, but
>> this is definitely true with this patch.
>>
>> Did you test it and get different results?
> 
> To avoid drivers having their own interpretations what "closed" means,
> core hides all queues in closed state:
> 
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.10-rc1/source/net/core/netdev-genl.c#L582
> 

Oh, so the kernel doesn't even call the driver's 
mlx5e_get_queue_stats_rx/tx callbacks if interface is down. Although our 
driver can easily satisfy the query and provide the stats.

I think the kernel here makes some design assumption about the stats, 
and enforces it on all vendor drivers.
I don't think it's a matter of "closed channel" interpretation, it's 
more about persistent stats.
IMO the kernel should be generic enough to let both designs (persistent 
and non-persistent stats) integrate naturally with this new queue 
netdev-genl stats feature.

>>> PTP RQ index is naively assigned to zero:
>>> rq->ix           = MLX5E_PTP_CHANNEL_IX;
>>>
>>> but this isn't to be used as the stats index.
>>> Today, the PTP-RQ has no matcing rxq in the kernel level.
>>> i.e. turning PTP-RQ on won't add a kernel-level RXQ to the
>>> real_num_rx_queues.
>>> Maybe we better do.
>>> If not, and the current state is kept, the best we can do is let the PTP-RQ
>>> naively contribute its queue-stat to channel 0.
>>
>> OK, it sounds like the easiest thing to do is just count PTP as
>> channel 0, so if i == 0, I'll in the PTP stats.
>>
>> But please see below regarding testing whether or not PTP is
>> actually enabled or not.
> 
> If we can I think we should avoid making queue 0 too special.
> If someone configures steering and only expects certain packets on
> queue 0 - getting PTP counted there will be a surprise.
> I vote to always count it towards base.

+1, let's count PTP RX in the base, especially that it has no matching 
kernel-level rxq.

Another option is to add one more kernel rxq for it (i.e. set 
real_num_rx_queues to num_channels + 1). But, that would be a bigger 
change, we can keep it for a followup discussion.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-07  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-04  0:46 [RFC net-next v4 0/2] mlx5: Add netdev-genl queue stats Joe Damato
2024-06-04  0:46 ` [RFC net-next v4 1/2] net/mlx5e: Add txq to sq stats mapping Joe Damato
2024-06-06 20:13   ` Tariq Toukan
2024-06-04  0:46 ` [RFC net-next v4 2/2] net/mlx5e: Add per queue netdev-genl stats Joe Damato
2024-06-06 20:11   ` Tariq Toukan
2024-06-06 21:54     ` Joe Damato
2024-06-07  0:19       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-06-07  1:02         ` Joe Damato
2024-06-07  7:53           ` Tariq Toukan
2024-06-11  0:22             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-06-07  7:40         ` Tariq Toukan [this message]
2024-06-07 20:50     ` Joe Damato
2024-06-12 20:13       ` Joe Damato
2024-06-06 16:23 ` [RFC net-next v4 0/2] mlx5: Add netdev-genl queue stats Jakub Kicinski

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