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From: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Yunsheng Lin <yunshenglin0825@gmail.com>,
	Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<pabeni@redhat.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Liang Chen <liangchen.linux@gmail.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	<linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 RFC 1/6] page_pool: frag API support for 32-bit arch with 64-bit DMA
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 18:59:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bec23ff-d38b-3fdf-1bb3-89658c1d465a@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230711093705.45454e41@kernel.org>

From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 09:37:05 -0700

> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:59:00 +0200 Alexander Lobakin wrote:
>> I'm fine with that, although ain't really able to work on this myself
>> now :s (BTW I almost finished Netlink bigints, just some more libie/IAVF
>> crap).
> 
> FWIW I was thinking about the bigints recently, and from ynl
> perspective I think we may want two flavors :( One which is at
> most the length of platform's long long, and another which is

(not sure we shouldn't split a separate thread off this one at this
 point :D)

`long long` or `long`? `long long` is always 64-bit unless I'm missing
something. On my 32-bit MIPS they were :D
If `long long`, what's the point then if we have %NLA_U64 and would
still have to add dumb padding attrs? :D I thought the idea was to carry
64+ bits encapsulated in 32-bit primitives.

> always a bigint. The latter will be more work for user space
> to handle, so given 99% of use cases don't need more than 64b
> we should make its life easier?
> 
>> It just needs to be carefully designed, because if we want move ALL the
>> inlines to a new header, we may end up including 2 PP's headers in each
>> file. That's why I'd prefer "core/driver" separation. Let's say skbuff.c
>> doesn't need page_pool_create(), page_pool_alloc(), and so on, while
>> drivers don't need some of its internal functions.
>> OTOH after my patch it's included in only around 20-30 files on
>> allmodconfig. That is literally nothing comparing to e.g. kernel.h
>> (w/includes) :D
> 
> Well, once you have to rebuilding 100+ files it gets pretty hard to
> clean things up ;) 
> 
> I think I described the preferred setup, previously:
> 
> $path/page_pool.h:
> 
> #include <$path/page_pool/types.h>
> #include <$path/page_pool/helpers.h>
> 
> $path/page_pool/types.h - has types
> $path/page_pool/helpers.h - has all the inlines
> 
> C sources can include $path/page_pool.h, headers should generally only
> include $path/page_pool/types.h.

Aaah okay, I did read it backwards ._. Moreover, generic stack barely
uses PP's inlines, it needs externals mostly.

Thanks,
Olek

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-11 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230629120226.14854-1-linyunsheng@huawei.com>
2023-06-29 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 1/6] page_pool: frag API support for 32-bit arch with 64-bit DMA Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-07 23:59   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-09 12:39     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-10 18:36       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-08  0:01   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-09 12:54     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-10 18:38       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 10:59         ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-11 16:37           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-11 16:59             ` Alexander Lobakin [this message]
2023-07-11 20:09               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-12 12:34               ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-12 17:26                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-07-14 12:16                   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-07-14 13:44                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-06-29 12:02 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 4/6] page_pool: remove PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG flag Yunsheng Lin

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