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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin-MZpvjPyXg2s@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>,
	Roland Dreier <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	general-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org,
	akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
	torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
	Jeff Squyres <jsquyres-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:38:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091013063816.GB9470@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AD41373.8010108-MZpvjPyXg2s@public.gmane.org>


* Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin-MZpvjPyXg2s@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 08:19:44PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>>> After that point the scheme is perfectly lossless.
> >>>>         
> >>> Well if it can OOM it's not lossless, obviously. You just define 
> >>> "event loss" to be equivalent to "Destruction of the universe." ;-)
> >>>       
> >> It can't OOM once the ummunotify registration is done - when an event 
> >> occurs it doesn't allocate any memory and it doesn't loose events.
> >>     
> >
> > Well, it has built-in event loss via the UMMUNOTIFY_FLAG_HINT mechanism: 
> > any double events on the same range will cause an imprecise event to be 
> > recorded and cause the loss of information.
> >   
> 
> The target (MPI) application doesn't care about how many events are 
> coming here. It just needs to know whether something has been 
> invalidated in the range. If so, it destroy the whole RDMA window 
> anyway. So it's actually _good_ that multiple events are merged into a 
> single one: the application only has to process a single event per 
> partially-invalidated range.

it's not unconditionally good as the fuzzy-merge-events rule:

                        events[n].flags      = UMMUNOTIFY_EVENT_FLAG_HINT;
                        events[n].hint_start = max(reg->start, reg->hint_start);
                        events[n].hint_end   = min(reg->end, reg->hint_end);

in essence merges flushes into a single interval - which inevitably 
might include areas of memory that were not flushed at all.

For example these two flushes:

  [...]          [...]

Would be merged into:

  [..................]

Btw., isnt the above max/min logic buggy, causing lost events? Shouldnt 
it be:

                        events[n].hint_start = min(reg->start, reg->hint_start);
                        events[n].hint_end   = max(reg->end, reg->hint_end);

?

	Ingo
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-13  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-11  4:38 [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify Roland Dreier
2009-09-15 11:34 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]   ` <20090915113434.GF1328-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-15 14:57     ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <ada7hw0gsqz.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-28 20:49         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]           ` <20090928204923.GA1960-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-28 21:40             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found] ` <aday6omhz9d.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11  5:56   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:03     ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <adatyzahvbm.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11  6:11         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]           ` <20090911150552.DB68.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11 16:42             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-11  6:15       ` Brice Goglin
     [not found]         ` <4AA9EAF7.5010401-MZpvjPyXg2s@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11  6:21           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:22           ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:40             ` [ofa-general] " Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20090911064019.GZ4973-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-11 16:58                 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                   ` <adaljklifkt.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-15  7:03                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-15  8:27                       ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15 12:38                       ` Jeff Squyres
2009-09-16 16:30   ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-16 16:40     ` [ofa-general] " Linus Torvalds
2009-09-17 11:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:24     ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <adafxalejiq.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-17 14:32         ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]           ` <adaab0tej5c.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-17 14:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:03               ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                 ` <adazl8td35u.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-17 15:22                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:45                   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                     ` <adatyz1d17q.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-18 11:50                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-29 17:13                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                         ` <20090929171332.GD14405-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30  9:44                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                             ` <20090930094456.GD24621-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-30 16:02                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <20090930160232.GZ22310-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 18:19                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20091012181944.GF17138-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 19:30                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 20:20                                         ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                           ` <20091012202046.GA7648-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13  4:05                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  6:40                                               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                 ` <20091013064006.GC9470-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13 16:27                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  5:43                                           ` Brice Goglin
     [not found]                                             ` <4AD41373.8010108-MZpvjPyXg2s@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13  6:38                                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-09-30 17:06                               ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 16:32                               ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                 ` <ada3a61rc3j.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-02 20:45                                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-07 22:34                                   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                     ` <ada3a5uq1dk.fsf-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 17:33                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:43         ` Peter Zijlstra

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