From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVS1MOuV/RT9w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Eli Cohen <eli-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
Jeff Squyres <jsquyres-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: RDMAoE verbs questions
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:46:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091201174604.GO1966@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ED289D4E09FBD4D92D911E869B97FDD01D0D6F9-ia22CT07NJfiMCgWhms8HQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 06:22:06PM +0200, Liran Liss wrote:
> > Dealing with ABI compatability is a different issue, this new scheme
> is API incompatible due to the change in semantics for existing values.
>
> For rdmacm applications, there are no semantic changes between IB and
> RDMAoE.
So? There are substantial semantic differences for *all* non-rdmacm
applications. Even common ones like OpenMPI. You propose to ignore them?
> > Please look at my message regarding using multiple devices, perhaps
> you can improve on that general idea.
>
> RDMAoE *is* IB transport over Ethernet - we don't want different devices
> with different node types exactly for this reason: applications
> shouldn't care if they are running over IB or RDMAoE, and shouldn't add
> another switch statement to support RDMAoE.
Nonsense. RDMAoE is no such thing, it is utterly incompatible with the
IB management model. It is some new protocol that is only about 90%
compatible with IB.
Apps using rdmacm shouldn't care one way or the other, apps that don't
*need* a new transport type.
Jason
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2009-12-01 16:22 ` RDMAoE verbs questions Liran Liss
[not found] ` <2ED289D4E09FBD4D92D911E869B97FDD01D0D6F9-ia22CT07NJfiMCgWhms8HQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-01 16:27 ` Sean Hefty
[not found] ` <44B4931AF8354AF3BABCCA052150D2BA-Zpru7NauK7drdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-01 17:00 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <2ED289D4E09FBD4D92D911E869B97FDD01D0D792-ia22CT07NJfiMCgWhms8HQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 8:08 ` Or Gerlitz
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2009-12-02 10:49 ` Liran Liss
2009-12-02 10:59 ` Or Gerlitz
2009-12-01 17:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
[not found] ` <20091201174604.GO1966-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 10:38 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <2ED289D4E09FBD4D92D911E869B97FDD01D647E2-ia22CT07NJfiMCgWhms8HQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 17:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091202173314.GP1966-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-03 18:26 ` Liran Liss
2009-11-24 23:23 Jeff Squyres
[not found] ` <209ECE49-3AB9-4E62-B825-54E474321FA6-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 0:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091125001136.GP6188-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 2:12 ` Jeff Squyres
[not found] ` <DD0B6BCA-5892-4CA9-8F5D-87C6CC1189DC-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 4:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091125045244.GJ1966-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 12:01 ` Jeff Squyres
2009-11-25 14:04 ` Tziporet Koren
[not found] ` <4B0D3982.2040408-VPRAkNaXOzVS1MOuV/RT9w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 14:30 ` Jeff Squyres
[not found] ` <7127F20E-2307-492D-B929-A6ACA5A74D14-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 14:41 ` Eli Cohen
2009-11-25 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091125173917.GK1966-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-01 20:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-30 13:34 ` Eli Cohen
2009-11-30 14:03 ` Jeff Squyres
[not found] ` <5A90523D-56AE-4675-AA39-B6876FB32999-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-01 14:28 ` Eli Cohen
2009-12-01 21:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-30 17:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-11-30 18:50 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <adaiqcrx2xx.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-30 19:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091130190345.GV6188-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-05 4:03 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <ada1vjaukx8.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-05 4:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-12-07 17:25 ` Eli Cohen
2009-12-09 19:06 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <adak4wwrmpq.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-09 21:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091209214843.GM6188-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-09 22:31 ` Eli Cohen
2009-11-30 20:01 ` Todd Rimmer
[not found] ` <5AEC2602AE03EB46BFC16C6B9B200DA81691763FEA-e4KNYiSEog6Xx9kJd3VG2h2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-01 16:46 ` Eli Cohen
2009-12-01 14:42 ` Eli Cohen
2009-11-25 7:25 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <4B0CDBEC.1030203-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 11:52 ` Jeff Squyres
[not found] ` <10904370-1D66-4013-BB3F-0F4B5EE581EE-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 14:59 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <4B0D4660.5060701-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-25 20:13 ` Pavel Shamis (Pasha)
[not found] ` <4B0D8FD2.9000702-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-26 7:26 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <4B0E2DA7.7060809-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-26 9:00 ` Pavel Shamis (Pasha)
[not found] ` <4B0E43BA.6070700-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-26 11:16 ` Or Gerlitz
2009-11-30 13:54 ` Jeff Squyres
2009-12-02 12:12 ` Eli Cohen
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