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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Paul Grun <pgrun-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
Cc: 'Liran Liss' <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVS1MOuV/RT9w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Or Gerlitz' <ogerlitz-hKgKHo2Ms0FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Roland Dreier' <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"'Hefty,
	Sean'" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Aleksey Senin' <aleksey-192fA4vuk7xBDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>,
	'linux-rdma' <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	monis-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	alekseys-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	yiftahs-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	'Tziporet Koren'
	<tziporet-VPRAkNaXOzVS1MOuV/RT9w@public.gmane.org>,
	alexr-smomgflXvOZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: When IBoE will be merged to upstream?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:06:35 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100720170635.GB25070@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <004e01cb27cc$61807010$24815030$@com>

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:28:24PM -0700, Paul Grun wrote:

> This is incorrect.  The intent of the text is that a verbs consumer deals
> ONLY in layer 3 addresses (GIDs).  It doesn't make any sense to restrict the
> interpretation to mean 'LIDs', since LIDs are a NOP for RoCE.  
> 
> CA16-17: When accessing the services of a RoCE verbs provider, the
> source and destination identifiers contained in the address vector shall
> consist of GIDs; the address vector shall not contain layer 2 references
> (e.g. local addresses). Layer 2 references include source and destination
> local identifiers and LID Path Bits.
> 
> "layer 2 references" refers to LIDs, MAC IDs or any other form of layer 2
> address.  If the wording of the text is insufficiently clear, please post a
> comment on comment tracker on the IBTA website.  Nevertheless, that is the
> intent.  

Since it never actually says MAC address it reads like it is just
excluding existing IB L2 addresses from use in ROCEE which makes alot
sense. If MAC address was ment, it should have been listed explicitly!

> > Exactly how and where the MAC address comes about was never decided,
> 
> Correct.  The IBTA IBXoE WG felt that defining the mapping from GID to MAC
> ID should be a function of the underlying fabric (Ethernet) and thus was out
> of scope for us to define the mapping mechanism.

IHMO, it is a bad design to create a architecture that requires the L2
information in the AH, forbid the L2 information from being passed
into the AH APIs, and then not specify how the L2 information is
created.

How is anyone supposed to implement this?

> > BTW, I absolutely hate the mixing of 'Sometimes it is a IPv4,
> > sometimes it is a GID, and sometimes it is an IPv6' in the same
> > field. That is just so nasty. The GID is a GID, don't overload it in
> > an ambiguous way to mean 2 other things!
> 
> I am unaware of any overloading, at least in the RoCE spec.

This is a feature added as part of the proposed patch set that spurned
this whole discussion. It is this feature that made create_ah into a
blocking call ...

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-20 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-20  6:18 When IBoE will be merged to upstream? Aleksey Senin
     [not found] ` <AANLkTikXzoaRl61ivsc7fm8EdO9Ucz4iGGfclFOQl3kK-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 23:23   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]     ` <adabpb1s58c.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-24 15:42       ` Liran Liss
     [not found]         ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB4439A78AFE88-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-24 18:05           ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]             ` <CF9C39F99A89134C9CF9C4CCB68B8DDF259E7DE3D0-osO9UTpF0USkrb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-24 18:41               ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                 ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB4439A78AFF16-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-24 20:37                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20100624203701.GA4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-25  8:04                       ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                         ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB4439A78B0042-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-25 15:57                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20100625155755.GC4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-25 16:54                               ` Hefty, Sean
2010-07-01 11:50                               ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                 ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB4439BA54B70E-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-02  0:20                                   ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                     ` <CF9C39F99A89134C9CF9C4CCB68B8DDF25A1002175-osO9UTpF0USkrb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-02  7:42                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2010-07-02  7:35                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2010-07-03 20:34                                   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                     ` <adak4pcnw3c.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-04 17:03                                       ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                         ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB443A8E048000-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06  6:44                                           ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                             ` <4C32D0BD.3030902-hKgKHo2Ms0FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 11:01                                               ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                 ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB443A8E2E552A-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07  6:00                                                   ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                                     ` <4C3417FA.7000600-hKgKHo2Ms0FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07  6:13                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2010-07-10  8:55                                                       ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                         ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB443AAB6D59C0-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-11  4:34                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                             ` <20100711043449.GA31404-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-12  7:58                                                               ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                                 ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB443AACB08EA5-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-12 16:21                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20100712162131.GB15392-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13  8:26                                                                       ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                                         ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB443AACDEE865-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13 19:31                                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20100713193138.GA12614-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15 10:55                                                                               ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB443ABB321006-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15 16:59                                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2010-07-20  5:28                                                                       ` Paul Grun
2010-07-20 17:06                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2010-07-12 16:43                                                                   ` Hefty, Sean
2010-07-12 21:20                                                                   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                     ` <adatyo4xuqx.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13 19:38                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20100713193828.GB12614-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13 21:20                                                                           ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                             ` <ada8w5fxenn.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15 11:14                                                                               ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <E113D394D7C5DB4F8FF691FA7EE9DB443ABB321050-WQlSmcKwN8Te+A/uUDamNg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15 17:21                                                                                   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <adalj9cveyd.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15 17:53                                                                                       ` Roland Dreier
2010-07-15 19:20                                                                                       ` Alex Rosenbaum
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <7E95F01E94AB484F83061FCFA35B39F87A7D2C-QfUkFaTmzUSUvQqKE/ONIwC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15 20:03                                                                                           ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <ada1vb4v7fl.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-20 20:50                                                                                               ` Liran Liss
2010-07-15 11:00                                                                       ` Liran Liss

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