From: Ira Weiny <weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Mike Heinz
<michael.heinz-h88ZbnxC6KDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Improved node descriptions
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:56:52 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110223135652.21a77482.weiny2@llnl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110223054151.GA2363-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:41:52 -0800
Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 04:03:29PM -0800, Roland Dreier wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Jason Gunthorpe
> > <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > Doing it in userspace makes generating the node description changed
> > > trap simpler?
> >
> > Hmm... how many places can do sethostname()? Seems easier to
> > catch in the kernel than hook every place in userspace. (Although
> > there's no kernel hook right now) I do agree it would be good to
> > have some idea of how we could generate the "node desc changed"
> > trap at appropriate times.
>
> Wasn't thinking about 100% perfection, just if DHCP is the concern it
> shouldn't be hard to hook that one place.
I like the idea of having a way to tie node description to the hostname. It just makes sense. The question in my mind is will upstream accept a hook in sethostname? Generally it seems like a good idea, perhaps other subsystems would want to know about it. But it does seem like it might not get accepted.
>
> > > I just wonder if this is a big pain to do right, what about charsets, IDN,
> > > and ugly details like that?
> >
> > Does anyone expect to care about non-ASCII node descs?
> > What can we sensibly do except take what we're given?
>
> node desc is UTF-8, hostname is IDNA, a conversion is required, see RFC
> 3490.
For what it is worth none of the diags or OpenSM support UTF-8. I'll add it to the list of things to do. ;-)
I don't know much about IDNA but it seems that ASCII is a subset of IDNA as well as UTF-8. Perhaps a check for ASCII in the hostname would suffice to at least make this work for ASCII hostnames only. (That should cover a significant portion of the hosts out there, if not all of them.)
>
> Does anyone care? Who knows, but very pedantically it is wrong to just copy
> the host name byte by byte. I only mention it to point out that it is
> trivial to do what Mike did, somewhat harder to do % escaping like you
> suggest and solve the multiple HCA problem, harder still to trap
> sethostname() and generate a trap, and extra special hard to correctly
> handle character sets on top of all that. :)
>
> So, is it still trivial to do it in the kernel?
Looking at the latest code it seems that setting the node descriptor for mlx4 and qib will result in a trap 144 being set. A hook in sethostname which results in the regeneration of the node description and the generation of the trap seems pretty easy. So, from a technical side I think the answer is "yes" it is pretty easy.
That said getting that hook into sethostname might be harder to get upstream than just writing the code. I can't comment on that because I don't have any idea how hard that would be. :-(
Ira
>
> Jason
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-23 21:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-17 21:30 [PATCH 0/2] Improved node descriptions Michael Heinz
2011-02-17 21:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Michael Heinz
2011-02-17 21:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Michael Heinz
2011-02-17 23:20 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <AANLkTim5MrHMVjaNFtHeWBy82dag4XNxdBcjBEW+d1yb-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-18 4:19 ` Hal Rosenstock
[not found] ` <AANLkTikh-8uGccT0tumHAu6cPOBm+k8joCaQ4W-grkHd-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-18 5:19 ` Roland Dreier
2011-02-18 16:22 ` Mike Heinz
[not found] ` <4C2744E8AD2982428C5BFE523DF8CDCB4A20B289C7-amwN6d8PyQWXx9kJd3VG2h2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-18 22:57 ` Hal Rosenstock
2011-02-18 14:09 ` Mike Heinz
2011-02-19 7:23 ` Jack Morgenstein
[not found] ` <201102190923.12641.jackm-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-21 18:30 ` Mike Heinz
2011-02-19 19:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20110219192458.GB4506-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-21 19:26 ` Mike Heinz
[not found] ` <4C2744E8AD2982428C5BFE523DF8CDCB4A20B28B17-amwN6d8PyQWXx9kJd3VG2h2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 23:13 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=1rmRckZz1iAXLpakf5bMuBp4koGOyO-FUDz_M-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-22 23:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20110222234304.GA21731-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 0:03 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <AANLkTink3ec2O8-ExPuJpJd5j_Y0UtiL=QtM0rrmZR88-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 5:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20110223054151.GA2363-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-23 21:56 ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2011-02-24 2:31 ` Mike Heinz
2011-02-23 21:02 ` Mike Heinz
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