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From: Ira Weiny <weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Hal Rosenstock
	<hal-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] infiniband-diags: properly resolve node guids
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:06:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110711140602.9ae3943e.weiny2@llnl.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110708225510.GC10216-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 15:55:10 -0700
Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 03:29:53PM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> > On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:59:01 -0700
> > Hal Rosenstock <hal-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 7/8/2011 5:50 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 05:42:38PM -0400, Hal Rosenstock wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> Should the request just be a GET rather than GET_TABLE and avoid this
> > > >> check ? I don't think multiple nodes can register with same Node GUID,
> > > >> can they ? Also, I think it makes eliminates this check and the missing
> > > >> 0 check.
> > > > 
> > > > Multiport HCAs should (and do..) show up with multiple node
> > > > records. There is one node record per end port, not per node. This is
> > > > why using node GUID as an end port identifier is a bad choice.
> > 
> > It is _not_ a bad choice if you are looking for a "node".
> 
> But very few diags seem to be designed around the idea that they will
> operate on a bundle of end ports (eg a node), they tend to be one end
> port only, so asking for a "node" is nonsense.

Why do you object to tools which report information for an entire node?  Nodes,
specifically switches, are much more manageable chunks than an entire fabric.

> What does it mean?
> Operate on a random end port of that node?

For some queries, like NodeInfo, yes that is all we need.

> All end ports?

Yes, why not?

While this particular patch only supports the fist port found.  That will
support 90% of the fabrics out there which have a single port of an HCA
connected to a fabric.  That is why I added the warning message indicating
there was a problem, as well as responding to Hal that further work would be
required.

> Just fail with error?

Only if you can't resolve what the user is looking for.

> 
> I don't like this trend to make node GUID the default GUID input
> format for diags. FWIW, ibtool consistently uses port GUID as the
> default GUID type for all end port specifications.

I am not proposing this for all tools.  Why shouldn't a user be able to query
more than a single port at a time in some "higher level" tools?

Also how would you propose to resolve a query via NodeDescription?  Put
yourself in the shoes of the administrator who is trying to manage 1000's of
"nodes" in a system.  Names are much easier to deal with than GUID's and
LID's.

> 
> > > Before this patch, it did used to use the port GUID for this.
> > 
> > The point of this patch is to do the right thing when the user is
> > requesting a node they want information about.  The next step is to
> > accept NodeDescription and use that from the NodeRecord as a key.
> 
> Well, it looks like this is a bug fix for both iblinkinfo and
> ibqueryerrors, eg they seem to be documented to accept node GUIDs but
> were treating them as port GUIDs in one place and node GUIDs in
> another.

Yes this was based on the assumption that PortGUID of [E]SP0 == node GUID,
which AFAIK works on all current switches, but is wrong.  This was "ok" when
iblinkinfo and ibqueryerrors only supported switches.  I wanted to expand
them.

> Though please update the -S section of the man page for
> iblinkinfo to reflect the GUID is a node GUID..

This was included as part of the next patch 3/4 "infiniband-diags:
libibnetdisc/iblinkinfo Allow for a partial fabric query centered around a CA"

Ira

> 
> Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-11 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-05 19:08 [PATCH 3/4] infiniband-diags: properly resolve node guids Ira Weiny
     [not found] ` <20110705120815.3cc7d59b.weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-08 21:42   ` Hal Rosenstock
     [not found]     ` <4E1779CE.9030502-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-08 21:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20110708215046.GB10216-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-08 21:59           ` Hal Rosenstock
     [not found]             ` <4E177DA5.9030600-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-08 22:29               ` Ira Weiny
     [not found]                 ` <20110708152953.0063fb7b.weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-08 22:55                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20110708225510.GC10216-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-11 21:06                       ` Ira Weiny [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20110711140602.9ae3943e.weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-11 21:18                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20110711211843.GD10216-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-12 23:52                               ` Ira Weiny
     [not found]                                 ` <20110712165250.a3cb9d47.weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
2011-07-13  5:09                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2011-07-11 19:02                   ` Hal Rosenstock

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