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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Bob Pearson <rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
Cc: 'Bart Van Assche' <bvanassche-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2 02/37] add opcodes to ib_pack.h
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:29:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110901172934.GI30654@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <037f01cc6855$5780cef0$06826cd0$@systemfabricworks.com>

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:15:02PM -0500, Bob Pearson wrote:

> > 1. Using ipv6_eth_mc_map() for mapping multicast GIDs seems an
> > unfortunate choice to me. That choice will cause multicast GIDs to be
> > mapped to the 33-33-xx-xx-xx-xx Ethernet address range that has been
> > reserved by RFC 2464 for IPv6 multicast addresses. If a collision with
> > an IPv6 multicast address occurs and IPv6 MLD snooping has enabled on
> > the switches in the involved network then RoCE multicast won't work
> > properly. IMHO we need a separate Ethernet address range for RoCE
> > multicast purposes, next to the existing ranges for IPv4 and IPv6.
> 
> I thought this was intentional! I.e. in order to get multicast over RoCE to
> work we were trying to piggyback on the behavior of intelligent switches.
> Otherwise the only way to get packets forwarded without adding a new group
> of multicast addresses would be to broadcast. The implementation of IGMP and
> MLD at the end node is oblivious to the packet's ethertype. And switches (at
> least the ones we tried) also happily multicast RoCE packets.

Nothing about RoCE multicast is standardized or even proposed to be
standardized.

Hijacking the IPv6 MAC space - and also abusing the net stack to
generate MLD stuff is what Mellanox did in their implementation. I
don't know if that was included in the main line submission or not?

Frankly I'd be inclined to map to the broadcast MAC address to pressure
the relevant standards bodies to finish the work on RoCE.

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-01 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-24 19:43 [patch v2 00/37] add rxe (soft RoCE) rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 01/37] add slice by 8 algorithm to crc32.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201228.154338911-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-05 18:39     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-rFs79znwVcG42Px2i351vhiz9hFyCJV5qg77of8Y6P5Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-05 19:24         ` Bob Pearson
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 02/37] add opcodes to ib_pack.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201228.204265835-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15  9:13     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-pb3p0n5MZYNSJicAdUfZ4PtMNG5vdzDOiZNQwLnB3Wcw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 16:15         ` Bob Pearson
2011-08-20 14:47           ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]             ` <CAO+b5-qV9uxs=V_uHbVZ_3sm1LqkQUB0em=K=nrRxUvFQYWo5A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-22 18:08               ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                 ` <CAO+b5-pKPuhsrQV6igqo78y_1+gZ=09GxHoABOVnLxX3myFYZA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-01  3:15                   ` Bob Pearson
2011-09-01 17:29                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2011-09-01 17:51                     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-09-01  3:38         ` Bob Pearson
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 03/37] add rxe_hdr.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 04/37] add rxe_opcode.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 05/37] add rxe_opcode.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 06/37] add rxe_param.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201228.415281967-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-20 15:27     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-q5ohgttDAc45MSKrSUdUVOfR3xHMSY99JtfX_MetSw8Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-01  3:50         ` Bob Pearson
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 07/37] add rxe.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 08/37] add rxe_loc.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 09/37] add rxe_mmap.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 10/37] add rxe_queue.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 11/37] add rxe_queue.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 12/37] add rxe_verbs.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201228.710989476-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 12:32     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-okTDAJ6iOTv_JKXeGttt0MFM+na-FRaNwJMFqHktKHJQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-01  4:32         ` Bob Pearson
2011-08-15 12:59     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-qQBWeyFacCU3tx92jG2zw1=YZJRRX5SbQ57Ztx+zxuew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-01  4:35         ` Bob Pearson
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 13/37] add rxe_verbs.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201228.761358826-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 13:24     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-r3UtgnyfhyaodHQTj_xB5d2MQkZ8kRbrpZ1hF_0W1ONw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-01  5:20         ` Bob Pearson
2011-09-01 10:33           ` Bart Van Assche
2011-09-01 11:02           ` Bart Van Assche
2011-08-15 14:33     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-pRQXn08aVOPxeQBzrYXAV+3zD+HZdCCmPTTwBCCzY=ag-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 14:45         ` Greg KH
     [not found]           ` <20110815144503.GA12014-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 14:58             ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]               ` <CAO+b5-rsofKNdcjCjBdj1fH7i3DpbHhFajhk0QfNK4DE7nj_SQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 15:07                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]                   ` <20110815150726.GA12490-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 16:02                     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                       ` <CAO+b5-ocwYv2_A8PfVUh1yp0CFNYasjTJNQ0F6bj-+wT8npavA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 16:13                         ` Greg KH
2011-08-15 16:31     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 14/37] add rxe_pool.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 15/37] add rxe_pool.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 16/37] add rxe_task.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 17/37] add rxe_task.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 18/37] add rxe_av.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 19/37] add rxe_srq.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 20/37] add rxe_cq.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.112267527-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-20 15:53     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 21/37] add rxe_qp.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.163423781-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 16:13     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-opA-W4Lp69NzS=9MLEv1V7jWhHPo=bayKhaR-kPgTQTQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 16:58         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 22/37] add rxe_mr.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 23/37] add rxe_mcast.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.264963653-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-20 16:13     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 24/37] add rxe_recv.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 25/37] add rxe_comp.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 26/37] add rxe_req.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.415319539-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-10 18:44     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 27/37] add rxe_resp.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.464927217-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-20 16:26     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 28/37] add rxe_arbiter.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.515453123-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-10 18:46     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-p=++ofCDj4ZB_PS9LiT5bcHsJiYDW8EL_2OrrzqjZmhg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-10 19:12         ` Bob Pearson
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 29/37] add rxe_dma.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.565188525-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-20 15:32     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 30/37] add rxe_icrc.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 31/37] add rxe.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.666252623-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-20 15:12     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 32/37] add rxe_net.h rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.715886208-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-07  8:51     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 33/37] add rxe_net.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.765038738-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-05 18:47     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-pk-X7aGgg12ND17OLcqcLU6qyiV+vf22anh9bYsXUUzw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-05 19:17         ` Bob Pearson
2011-08-06  8:02         ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 34/37] add rxe_net_sysfs.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.815123934-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-07  9:27     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 35/37] add rxe_sample.c rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.865806162-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-07  8:08     ` Bart Van Assche
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 36/37] add Makefile rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
2011-07-24 19:43 ` [patch v2 37/37] add Kconfig rpearson-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5
     [not found]   ` <20110724201229.966262587-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-05 18:44     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <CAO+b5-oFKiAhTkCntAo5_mMCtdg1vb1eM_mTi-8E-T_atHa_3w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-05 19:19         ` Bob Pearson
2011-08-06 18:44           ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found] ` <20110724194300.421253331-klaOcWyJdxkshyMvu7JE4pqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-05 10:36   ` [patch v2 00/37] add rxe (soft RoCE) Stefan (metze) Metzmacher

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