From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Or Gerlitz <or.gerlitz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] ib/core: add support for extended performance counters in sysfs
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:58:43 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111101215843.GO26974@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZOPZ+zmwTdHva5C7k0QhBmEzxSGTa1Ajszz3eSH=WpP3A4fg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 11:46:08PM +0200, Or Gerlitz wrote:
> > In the same vien adding saturating but non-resettable PMA-esque
> > counters for IBoE seems pretty hackish to me.. Though I agree it is
> > not terribly relevant for 64 bit counters.
> To put things in place, the IB stack PMA counters aren't resettable
> through sysfs, still, under IB, the same counter set is readable
> through both mads and sysfs and resettable through mads.
Right, the sysfs interface is pretty much unusable for IB. Your work
to make it go on IBoE makes something is very nearly usuable, but you
can't write a tool that collects these counters from a port in IBoE
mode and also expect it to work in IB mode because the semantics are
different.
My argument here is that the semantics we have for the IB case are not
useful. Let us define sane semantics for the IBoE case and have a
longer term clean up to make the IB case follow them as well.
Sane semantics for a sysfs counter are:
- Free-running
- Non-saturating
- No reset
- 64 or 32 bit value, detectable by user-space
No 6 bit counters. No counters that saturate. No counters that
randomly reset.
To this end, I think exporting 64 bit and 32 bit counts of the same
value is not the way to go.
> As for the saturation thing, I didn't think about that, but you're
> probably right and all the IBA PMA counters are saturating, but as
> your comment said, the 64 bit case is practically okay
Will any counters that get exposed when IBoE is turned on not be 64
bits? There are not very many 64 bit PMA counters.
If yes, maybe you should patch to un-export them until things can be
fixed sanely...
Jason
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-10 8:51 [PATCH for-3.2] IBoE fixes Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1110101047420.10901-VYr5/9ddeaGSIdy2EShu12Xnswh1EIUO@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-10 8:53 ` [PATCH 1/5] ib/mlx4: enable 4K mtu for IBoE Or Gerlitz
2011-10-10 8:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] ib/mlx4: remove setting of vlan in IBoE WQEs control segment Or Gerlitz
2011-10-10 8:55 ` [PATCH 3/5] net/mlx4_core: remove module param controlling the vlan table size Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1110101055050.11243-VYr5/9ddeaGSIdy2EShu12Xnswh1EIUO@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-10 17:00 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <CAG4TOxNaQicA6ExuNsw8V95mJPD+AQX5Wrfg+rCoBxdr2E+2ww-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-11 7:24 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <4E93EF38.5040707-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-11 17:28 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <CAL1RGDVk2EOmgWU_iZQWQqKJFPNYN4o_5_14Qbr_6wUzTJ1bOg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-11 19:18 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJZOPZJnzUm2M1zm1564TUwKCN3r=y3g-4pwTL4bJPDo2V4s9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-11 19:22 ` Roland Dreier
2011-10-16 8:32 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-10-16 8:26 ` [PATCH V1 3/5] net/mlx4_core: deprecate " Or Gerlitz
2011-10-10 8:56 ` [PATCH 4/5] ib/core: add support for extended performance counters in sysfs Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1110101055570.11243-VYr5/9ddeaGSIdy2EShu12Xnswh1EIUO@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-31 19:38 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <CAL1RGDXdkiZNtAsnqDtgbCJGLXLFvk8s-YA5mR189kmg6FkabQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 6:40 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJZOPZ+K3u+u5XutGfBhKh3DaBpNRKV_bw67CLK6jy3060OHqA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 16:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20111101162218.GA10710-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 17:23 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJZOPZLXZL=vEDdXE3rE5Jzw840SrdY=73M7QgKSNzOysRE6MQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 17:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20111101173625.GH26974-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 18:14 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJZOPZJCY5ehTGw8htsxw0dJgMXJJAS-=LGJde9ddcMsmhqvMg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 18:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20111101183730.GI26974-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 21:42 ` Roland Dreier
2011-11-01 21:44 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-11-01 21:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2011-11-01 22:03 ` Ira Weiny
[not found] ` <20111101150358.17d232ee.weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 22:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2011-11-01 22:19 ` Ira Weiny
2011-11-01 22:34 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJZOPZJh2T5nCsdU9B0anUnoB=SpRD2_yBLT620zEi0Kr12MFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 22:46 ` Ira Weiny
[not found] ` <20111101154627.f3c847dd.weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-02 7:38 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-11-02 17:16 ` Or Gerlitz
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2011-11-08 0:54 ` Roland Dreier
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2011-11-08 1:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2011-11-08 16:06 ` Ira Weiny
[not found] ` <20111108080606.7c5dd62c.weiny2-i2BcT+NCU+M@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-20 11:49 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-12-20 11:49 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-12-20 12:03 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <4EF07993.2090900-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-20 17:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20111220174639.GE25774-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-20 19:40 ` Or Gerlitz
[not found] ` <CAJZOPZ+rBKck50kmyhLZ3VNLNmoS_K6cA3Pj3L6XQjcBQo6DjA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-20 19:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2011-12-20 19:56 ` Or Gerlitz
2012-01-04 19:29 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-12-22 17:09 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-11-01 21:46 ` Or Gerlitz
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2011-11-01 21:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
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2011-11-02 8:27 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-11-01 21:49 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <CAG4TOxM4n3=51-3UqYF=iRS25OdRjTXoKDD6u1DukgRrwvTW1g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-01 22:32 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-11-01 22:49 ` Hefty, Sean
2011-10-10 8:57 ` [PATCH 5/5] ib/mlx4: added support for extended PMA counters under IBoE Or Gerlitz
2011-10-26 7:04 ` [PATCH for-3.2] IBoE fixes Or Gerlitz
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