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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Haggai Eran <haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Guy Shapiro <guysh-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Shachar Raindel <raindel-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Yotam Kenneth <yotamke-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 10:59:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150526165928.GC11800@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1432647280.28905.107.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 09:34:40AM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote:

> This is a core feature more than anything else.  Namespaces for RDMA
> devices is not unique to IB or RoCE in any way.  Yet no thought has been
> given to how this will work universally across all of the RDMA
> capable

I think if Haggi is able to follow the perscription I gave then things
will be general.

 - All rdma cm ids are associated with a netdev
 - The output flow uses that netdev to restrict, configure and
   determine the output RDMA device QP
 - The input flow locates the netdev as step one and then uses the
   (netdev,ip,port) tuple to find the rdma listener, which is in turn
   tied to a netdev and is restricted/configured by it.

The technology specific part is the two maps: from (input
device,packet) to netdev, from netdev to (output device,packet)

After the above clean up is done, namespace enabling is basically
providing those two mapping functions for each technology in a way
that can locate delegatable netdevs.

The trivial case for all the ethernet techs is to provide the above
maps that can take the (input device,VLAN) and locate the correct
child VLAN specific netdev. The existing code to support VLAN should
pretty much immediately enable basic namespace support for all the
ethernet families.

The big open question for ethernet is how to work without relying on
VLAN to create delgated netdevs - typically one would use a bridge and
veth's, which do not seem very RDMA compatible. But that doesn't need
to be answered right now.

Remember, this isn't RDMA namespaces, this is netdev namespace support
for RDMA-CM -> very different things.

Basically, I'm happy with the generality story, if the clean up work I
outlined turns out..

> issue for usNIC as if you want namespace support there, you just start
> the user space app in a given namespace and you are probably 90% of
> the

usNIC has no kernel facing functionality, and no interaction with
RDMA-CM, so it is irrelevant to any discussion about RDMA-CM :(

Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-26 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-17  5:50 [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM Haggai Eran
     [not found] ` <1431841868-28063-1-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-17  5:50   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 01/12] IB/core: Add rwsem to allow reading device list or client list Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 06/12] IB/cm: Expose service ID in request events Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 07/12] IB/cma: Refactor RDMA IP CM private-data parsing code Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 08/12] IB/cma: Add compare_data checks to the RDMA CM module Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 12/12] IB/ucma: Take the network namespace from the process Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:50 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 02/12] IB/addr: Pass network namespace as a parameter Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:50 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 03/12] IB/core: Find the network namespace matching connection parameters Haggai Eran
     [not found]   ` <1431841868-28063-4-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <20150519182616.GF18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 14:48         ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 04/12] IB/ipoib: Return IPoIB devices " Haggai Eran
     [not found]   ` <1431841868-28063-5-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <20150519182810.GG18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 15:17         ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 23:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <20150519235502.GB26634-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21  5:33         ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]           ` <555D6E41.10606-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21  5:48             ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]               ` <CAJ3xEMjN+o=vC4abAeG5EuOo3Y1gSyh1qPDseA_aaYmoLWAunw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21  6:33                 ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]                   ` <555D7C4A.2060708-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 10:31                     ` Or Gerlitz
2015-05-21 17:43             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20150521174336.GA6771-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 11:51                 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 15:45                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-21  5:48         ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 05/12] IB/cm: Share listening CM IDs Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 18:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <20150519183545.GH18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 22:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20150519223502.GA26324-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21  8:08           ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 17:54             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-21  7:07       ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 09/12] IB/cma: Separate port allocation to network namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 10/12] IB/cma: Share CM IDs between namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 11/12] IB/cma: Add support for network namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 14:30 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM Yann Droneaud
2015-05-19 14:54   ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]     ` <555B4EBE.7010900-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 16:39       ` Parav Pandit
2015-05-19 18:01         ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]           ` <1432058488417.98688-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:42             ` Parav Pandit
2015-05-19 18:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]           ` <20150519183843.GI18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:44             ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]               ` <CAGgvQNTXAWkQWzBBrQfk39GaCQ2ck63AhgURpYFFBPTbkpx4kg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 19:20                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-26 13:34 ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]   ` <1432647280.28905.107.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-26 16:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2015-05-26 17:46       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]         ` <1432662396.28905.157.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-26 18:47           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-28 13:22           ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 15:46             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20150528154633.GB2962-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 10:07                 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 13:15       ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-26 17:55     ` Christian Benvenuti (benve)
2015-05-28 13:07     ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]       ` <55671309.6080303-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 14:07         ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]           ` <1432822057.114391.26.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 16:21             ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]               ` <55674077.5040707-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 17:43                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <20150528174337.GA10448-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 18:22                     ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                       ` <1432837360.114391.35.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 19:05                         ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                           ` <CAJ3xEMh2T5-56rFxWVdct2uAZYW1ZrKivWfS45V-mvhAfwyGaA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:55                             ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                               ` <1432850150.114391.56.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 10:03                                 ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-03 16:14                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20150603161447.GC12073-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 19:05                                       ` Or Gerlitz
2015-06-03 19:53                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                           ` <20150603195325.GC7902-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 20:07                                             ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                               ` <CAJ3xEMiO+hEzOJ2oJ5G-mmBeaX4ZHvUyhNSAzsrRDui6dFjvCg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 21:45                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-06-04  9:41                                                   ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-04 16:06                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-06-03 23:48                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                   ` <20150603234811.GA15128-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  6:24                                                     ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]                                                       ` <556FEF25.80409-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04 16:40                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                           ` <20150604164058.GB27699-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08  7:52                                                             ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-08 16:53                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe

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