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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Tom Talpey <tom-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	'Christoph Hellwig' <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg
	<sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
	Steve Wise
	<swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>,
	sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	roid-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	eli-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	target-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	trond.myklebust-7I+n7zu2hftEKMMhf/gKZA@public.gmane.org,
	bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
	Oren Duer <oren-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/5] RDMA/core: Transport-independent access flags
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:11:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150710161108.GA19042@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <559FC710.1050307-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 09:22:24AM -0400, Tom Talpey wrote:
> and it is enabled only when the RDMA Read is active.

??? How is that done? ib_get_dma_mr is defined to return a remote
usable rkey that is valid from when it it returns until the MR is
destroyed. NFS creates one mr early on, it does not seem to make one
per RDMA READ?

For the proposed iSER patch the problem is very acute, iser makes a
single PD and phys MR at boot time for each device. This means there
is a single machine wide unchanging rkey that allows remote physical
memory access. An attacker only has to repeatedly open QPs to iSER and
guess rkey values until they find it. Add in likely non-crypto
randomness for rkeys, and I bet it isn't even that hard to do.

So this seems to be a catastrophic security failing.

> > From there, it is a logical wish: If Steve is going to FRMR'ize iSER
> >to be acceptable security wise, I'd rather see that work done on in a
> >general way. Hence the API discussion.
> 
> Well, it's important to realize that NFS already does the Right Thing.
> So it isn't actually an urgent issue. There is time to discuss.

It depends on what is going on with iWarp iSER. If the iWarp community
thinks it should go ahead insecurely then fine, put a giant warning in
dmesg and go ahead, otherwise iWarp needs to address this difference
with a proper generic API, which appears, must wrapper
ib_post_send. Harder job :\

I'm sorry Steve for leading you down the wrong path with these flags,
I did not fully realize exactly what the iWarp difference was at the
start :(

Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-10 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-05 23:21 [PATCH V3 0/5] Transport-independent MRs Steve Wise
2015-07-05 23:22 ` [PATCH V3 1/5] RDMA/core: Transport-independent access flags Steve Wise
2015-07-06  5:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-06 14:23     ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07  8:58       ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]   ` <20150705232158.12029.25472.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06  7:09     ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]       ` <559A2991.3040304-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06 14:29         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07 14:17       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07 14:34         ` Haggai Eran
2015-07-07 14:46           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07 15:07             ` Haggai Eran
2015-07-06  7:53     ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-06 14:37       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-06 16:17         ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-06 16:55           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07  9:00           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20150707090001.GB11736-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07  9:14               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                 ` <559B9891.8060907-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07 14:05                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07 16:17                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                       ` <20150707161751.GA623-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07 16:27                         ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                           ` <559BFE03.4020709-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07 21:36                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-08  7:29                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                 ` <559CD174.4040901-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08  8:13                                   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                     ` <20150708081320.GB24203-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 10:05                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                         ` <559CF5E8.6080000-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 10:20                                           ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                             ` <20150708102035.GA28421-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 11:08                                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                 ` <559D0498.9050809-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 17:14                                                   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-07-09  8:46                                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-09 13:52                                                       ` Chuck Lever
2015-07-10 19:34                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-12  7:49                                                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-13 16:50                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14  8:06                                                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                                 ` <55A4C2FA.9060707-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 12:24                                                                   ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                                     ` <55A4FF93.4090406-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 13:21                                                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-23  0:43                                                                       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-07-08 19:08                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                   ` <20150708190842.GB11740-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 20:32                                     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-09  0:03                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20150709000337.GE16812-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-09  8:00                                           ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-09  8:58                                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-09 22:18                                           ` Doug Ledford
2015-07-09 22:53                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-10 13:22                                               ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                 ` <559FC710.1050307-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 16:11                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2015-07-10 17:56                                                     ` Doug Ledford
2015-07-10 18:34                                                       ` Chuck Lever
2015-07-10 18:42                                                       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                         ` <55A01225.9000000-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 19:54                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-10 20:48                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                             ` <20150710195420.GA31500-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 22:33                                                               ` Doug Ledford
2015-07-11 10:17                                                               ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20150711101736.GA14741-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 16:57                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14  7:25                                                                     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-14  9:05                                                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-14 15:35                                                                         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-14 17:26                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20150714172655.GB24403-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15  7:10                                                                             ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-10 22:30                                                           ` Doug Ledford
2015-07-10 20:57                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                         ` <20150710205706.GA7883-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 22:27                                                           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                                             ` <20150710233417.GA8919@obsidianresearch.com>
     [not found]                                                               ` <20150710233417.GA8919-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-11  3:10                                                                 ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                                                   ` <55A0891F.4050105-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 17:18                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-13 22:23                                                                       ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-11 16:37                                                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                       ` <CCB6E837-88FF-4DBB-976D-4CF56396A1A1-/Yg/VP3ZvrM@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-12 10:46                                                         ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                           ` <55A24571.60902-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 19:25                                                             ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 19:29                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20150714192941.GA26292-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 19:32                                                                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 19:37                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14 19:55                                                                     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-14 20:10                                                                       ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20150714195511.GB7716-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 20:29                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20150714202943.GB26927-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 20:40                                                                             ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 20:44                                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20150714204442.GD26927-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 20:54                                                                                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 20:59                                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14 20:50                                                                             ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-15  8:47                                                                             ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                                               ` <55A61E38.20201-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 12:19                                                                                 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20150715121926.GB14993-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 19:17                                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-15  6:50                                                                           ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20150715065057.GA22113-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 19:12                                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20150715191257.GF23588-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16  6:41                                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-16  8:04                                                                                   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <20150716080402.GC9093-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16 16:13                                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14 20:46                                                                     ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-14 19:45                                                               ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20150714194512.GA25887-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 19:57                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14 19:58                                                                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 20:41                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20150714204145.GC26927-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 20:51                                                                         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 21:01                                                                           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 21:14                                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-23 18:53                                                                     ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                                                       ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A901C9A5-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-23 19:03                                                                         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-23 23:30                                                                           ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                                                             ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A901DB80-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-23 23:53                                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20150723235310.GA20537-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24  0:18                                                                                   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-07-24  4:46                                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                       ` <20150708203205.GA21847-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 20:37                                         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-09  8:47                                         ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-08 21:38                                   ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-08 23:36                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-09 11:02                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                         ` <559E54AB.2010905-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-09 17:01                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-09 20:00                                             ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-09 21:16                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20150709170142.GA21921-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10  8:55                                               ` kernel memory registration (was: RDMA/core: Transport-independent access flags) Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                 ` <559F8881.7070308-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 16:35                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-11 10:31                                                   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                     ` <20150711103153.GC14741-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 16:46                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                         ` <20150713164652.GC23832-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14  8:24                                                           ` kernel memory registration Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                             ` <55A4C73A.7080001-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 17:24                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-11 10:25                                             ` [PATCH V3 1/5] RDMA/core: Transport-independent access flags 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-13 16:35                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-13 19:36                                               ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-13 20:15                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                   ` <20150713201538.GA11681-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14  9:10                                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                       ` <55A4D20C.2000904-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 15:36                                                         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                           ` <20150714153619.GC11026-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 15:47                                                             ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-14 16:22                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14  7:37                                                 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-14  9:22                                                   ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                     ` <55A4D4C6.6040907-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 12:12                                                       ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-14 13:23                                                         ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-14 14:45                                                       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 15:40                                                       ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-08  8:11                     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-06  7:58     ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]       ` <559A3536.3020807-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06 14:39         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-05 23:22 ` [PATCH V3 2/5] RDMA/iser: Use transport independent MR allocation Steve Wise
     [not found] ` <20150705231831.12029.80307.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-05 23:22   ` [PATCH V3 3/5] RDMA/isert: " Steve Wise
2015-07-05 23:22   ` [PATCH V3 4/5] svcrdma: " Steve Wise
2015-07-05 23:22   ` [PATCH V3 5/5] xprtrdma: " Steve Wise
2015-07-06  5:25   ` [PATCH V3 0/5] Transport-independent MRs Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20150706052542.GB1109-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06 14:24       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07  9:01         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'

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