[GIT PULL] pull request: linux-firmware: Add Intel OPA hfi1 firmware

[GIT PULL] pull request: linux-firmware: Add Intel OPA hfi1 firmware

[ira.weiny]

Doug,

Please Pull:

git://github.com/weiny2/linux-firmware.git  master-hfi1-firmware

This is the first release of the Intel OPA hfi1 firmware required by the hfi1
driver.

Thank you,
Ira Weiny

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Re: [GIT PULL] pull request: linux-firmware: Add Intel OPA hfi1 firmware

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 05:32:06PM -0400, ira.weiny wrote:
> Doug,
> 
> Please Pull:
> 
> git://github.com/weiny2/linux-firmware.git  master-hfi1-firmware
> 
> This is the first release of the Intel OPA hfi1 firmware required by the hfi1
> driver.

Um, I'm not a lawyer, but that license does not look OK for the
firmware repo.. At least I've never seen a redistributable license
with stuff like this:

 (1)	reproduce and execute the Software only for internal use with Intel Products, 
 including designing products for Intel Products,; this license does not include the 
 right to sublicense, and may be exercised only within Your facilities by Your 
 employees;

You should talk internally and ask why this needs to be different from
other Intel firmware blob licenses like i915 ..

Jason
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Re: [GIT PULL] pull request: linux-firmware: Add Intel OPA hfi1 firmware

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:47:03PM +0000, Vogel, Steve wrote:
> The license terms allow anyone to distribute (but not sell) the firmware but
> only for use on Intel products. 

Redistribution alone may be enough to be included in linux-firmware

However, most of the additional terms (and there are lots of them)
this imposes beyond the usual likely make it impossible to include in a
distro, so pragmatically, there is no reason to push for inclusion in
linux-firmware.

This is going to be a hard road for you guys. Falling in line with
every other Intel firmware blob's (i915, ibt, iwlwifi, SST2) license
would be much easier on you and the distros.

Frankly, I think the onus is on you to get statements from the
licensing teams at Fedora, Debian, RH and SuSE on if they can include
work under this license or not.

I suspect Fedora and Debian will both say they can't, just based on
their public policies and the additional restrictions in this
license.. But hey, I'm not a licensing lawyer..

Jason
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Re: [GIT PULL] pull request: linux-firmware: Add Intel OPA hfi1 firmware

[ira.weiny]

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 05:35:53PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:47:03PM +0000, Vogel, Steve wrote:
> > The license terms allow anyone to distribute (but not sell) the firmware but
> > only for use on Intel products. 
> 
> Redistribution alone may be enough to be included in linux-firmware
> 
> However, most of the additional terms (and there are lots of them)
> this imposes beyond the usual likely make it impossible to include in a
> distro, so pragmatically, there is no reason to push for inclusion in
> linux-firmware.
> 
> This is going to be a hard road for you guys. Falling in line with
> every other Intel firmware blob's (i915, ibt, iwlwifi, SST2) license
> would be much easier on you and the distros.
> 
> Frankly, I think the onus is on you to get statements from the
> licensing teams at Fedora, Debian, RH and SuSE on if they can include
> work under this license or not.
> 
> I suspect Fedora and Debian will both say they can't, just based on
> their public policies and the additional restrictions in this
> license.. But hey, I'm not a licensing lawyer..
> 

I just noticed that the email from Steve that Jason Replied to did not make it
to the lists.

Here is the text from Steve for reference.

<quote>
Here is an interpretation of the grant language:

2.11Grant.  Subject to Your compliance with the terms of this Agreement, and
  the limitations set forth in Section 2.2, Intel hereby grants You, during the
term of this Agreement, a non-transferable, non-exclusive, non-sublicenseable
(except as expressly set forth below), limited right and license:
(A)Onunder Intel’s copyrights, to:
(1)Onreproduce and execute the Software only for internal use with Intel
Products, including designing products for Intel Products,; this license does
not include the right to sublicense, and may be exercised only within Your
facilities by Your employees;

[This allows anyone obtaining the software to
make copies and use the software, but not to re-license it.]


(2)Ondistribute the unmodified Software only in Object Code, only for use with
Intel Products; this license includes the right to sublicense, but only the
rights to execute the Software and only under Intel’s End User Software License
Agreement attached as Attachment B, without the right to further sublicense;


[This allows anyone to re-distribute the software for use on Intel products and
requires the them to re-distribute with the license in Attachment B]


</quote>

Ira

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Re: [GIT PULL] pull request: linux-firmware: Add Intel OPA hfi1 firmware

[ira.weiny]

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 05:35:53PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:47:03PM +0000, Vogel, Steve wrote:
> > The license terms allow anyone to distribute (but not sell) the firmware but
> > only for use on Intel products. 
> 
> Redistribution alone may be enough to be included in linux-firmware

I believe redistribution is sufficient as our legal team is well aware that
this was to be released to linux-firmware and the distros.

I submitted with the license which was approved by our legal team after having
been assured it allowed for redistribution by linux-firmware and the distros.

> 
> However, most of the additional terms (and there are lots of them)
> this imposes beyond the usual likely make it impossible to include in a
> distro, so pragmatically, there is no reason to push for inclusion in
> linux-firmware.
> 
> This is going to be a hard road for you guys. Falling in line with
> every other Intel firmware blob's (i915, ibt, iwlwifi, SST2) license
> would be much easier on you and the distros.

We are working with Legal to come up with a license which is more in line with
what already exists in linux-firmware.

Ira

> 
> Frankly, I think the onus is on you to get statements from the
> licensing teams at Fedora, Debian, RH and SuSE on if they can include
> work under this license or not.
> 
> I suspect Fedora and Debian will both say they can't, just based on
> their public policies and the additional restrictions in this
> license.. But hey, I'm not a licensing lawyer..
> 
> Jason
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