From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@leon.nu>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
dledford@redhat.com, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:19:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160416191917.GY25498@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160416060042.GA6349@leon.nu>
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:00:42AM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 05:37:32PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:23:28AM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> >
> > > Intel as usual decided to do it in their way and the result is presented
> > > on this mailing list.
> >
> > Dennis was pretty clear he was going to send the patches to address
> > Al's concern, which he has done.
> >
> > I was also pretty clear I was looking to get rid of the char dev :)
>
> Yes, and I was pretty clear that we need to converge on one common API
> prior to converting old code (including drivers in staging) in order to
> do it once only.
While we are at it, could the person who'd come up with ui_lseek() be located
and made to stand up and explain the rationale behind the SEEK_END semantics
therein? To quote the manpage (and paraphrase just about any introductory
textbook):
SEEK_END
The file offset is set to the size of the file plus offset bytes.
I'm really curious - which part of "plus" might have lead to
case SEEK_END:
offset = ((dd->kregend - dd->kregbase) + DC8051_DATA_MEM_SIZE) -
offset;
and, if its author has decided that of course it _must_ have meant "minus",
why had he or she failed to post a correction to the manpage? Or, on the
off-chance that this "plus" might have something to do with reality,
experimented with some file, for that matter.
Folks, this is a well-earned "F". And not just for Unix Programming 101 -
the same semantics applies to fseek(3), which is a part of C standard.
Incidentally, lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_END) is "seek to end", not "fail with EINVAL".
As for the use of ioctl... Frankly, considering the above, it does sound like
"that'll make them STFU about the weirdness - ioctl *is* weird, so there!"
Single-consumer APIs stink, film at 11...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-16 19:19 UTC|newest]
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2016-04-14 15:41 [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access Dennis Dalessandro
[not found] ` <20160414153727.6387.96381.stgit-9QXIwq+3FY+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 1/7] IB/hfi1: Export drivers user sw version via sysfs Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-18 13:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 2/7] IB/hfi1: Remove unused user command Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-18 13:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 3/7] IB/hfi1: Add ioctl() interface for user commands Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 4/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write(), use ioctl() for user cmds Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 5/7] IB/hfi1: Add trace message in user IOCTL handling Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 6/7] IB/hfi1: Consolidate IOCTL defines Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] IB/hfi1: Move eprom to its own device Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 16:45 ` [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-14 17:48 ` Ira Weiny
[not found] ` <20160414174830.GA11641-no5AT4YuGWKtqXYlAKuG4QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 18:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160414180540.GA12554-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 18:42 ` Dennis Dalessandro
[not found] ` <20160414184200.GA10416-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 18:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160414185659.GB12997-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 20:01 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB041C34-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 20:35 ` Woodruff, Robert J
2016-04-14 21:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160414212702.GA14137-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 0:02 ` Ira Weiny
[not found] ` <20160415000242.GA18400-no5AT4YuGWKtqXYlAKuG4QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 0:30 ` Hefty, Sean
2016-04-15 4:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160415044124.GA16805-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 17:30 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0422AE-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 18:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160415181811.GA22322-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 21:04 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB042530-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 21:14 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 22:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160415220340.GB24204-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-16 16:22 ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-18 17:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160418175559.GC13865-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 18:15 ` Dennis Dalessandro
[not found] ` <20160418181535.GB7596-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 18:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160418182453.GA14930-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19 1:36 ` Dennis Dalessandro
[not found] ` <20160419013649.GA28612-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19 17:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-14 21:08 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB041C90-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 21:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-15 4:01 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 16:17 ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-15 17:30 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 17:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-15 17:44 ` Woodruff, Robert J
2016-04-15 21:03 ` Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <20160415173401.GA10868-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 17:46 ` Hefty, Sean
2016-04-15 21:23 ` Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <20160415212328.GF10689-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 23:28 ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-16 6:09 ` Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <20160416060940.GB6349-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-16 15:29 ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-15 23:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-16 6:00 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-16 19:19 ` Al Viro [this message]
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2016-04-18 12:00 ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 17:52 ` Dennis Dalessandro
[not found] ` <20160414175243.GA9310-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 18:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-20 20:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160420203616.GA28991-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-22 18:38 ` Dennis Dalessandro
[not found] ` <20160422183844.GB21996-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26 15:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2016-04-18 13:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20160418130909.GD11508-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 17:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160418174047.GB13865-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 18:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-19 3:45 ` Ira Weiny
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2016-04-19 18:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2016-04-19 17:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160419173817.GF20844-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19 20:44 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0439B0-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19 21:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-20 20:46 ` Doug Ledford
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2016-04-26 13:05 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <571F6795.8020808-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26 15:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-27 5:21 ` Weiny, Ira
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2016-04-27 14:45 ` Doug Ledford
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