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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Erez Shitrit
	<erezsh-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Erez Shitrit <erezsh-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-rc 2/7] IB/IPoIB: Don't update neigh validity for unresolved entries
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 19:20:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160607162034.GG3663@leon.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <99eb8d42-95f2-6899-b427-b6258db5e44b-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

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On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:50:54AM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote:
> On 6/7/2016 10:43 AM, Doug Ledford wrote:
> > On 6/7/2016 10:32 AM, Erez Shitrit wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>> On 6/7/2016 2:01 AM, Erez Shitrit wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:59 AM, Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/5/2016 5:10 PM, Or Gerlitz wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> -                       neigh->alive = jiffies;
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>> +                       if (likely(skb_queue_len(&neigh->queue) < IPOIB_MAX_PATH_REC_QUEUE))
> >>>>>>> +                               neigh->alive = jiffies;
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> why testing the queue len makes things right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm with Or on this one.  This test doesn't make sense unless you assume
> >>>>> that the neighbor is being hit with a steady stream of packets.  If
> >>>>> someone just runs ping -c 1 to a dead neighbor, this test will fail.
> >>>>> The idea of the patch is OK, but the test needs to be reworked for
> >>>>> situations other than a blasting stream of data.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I will try to explain the idea behind that test, and why it works (I
> >>>> hope I'll make it clear this time :))
> >>>>
> >>>> there are 2 objects that are taking place here, the garbage-collector
> >>>> that removes neigh if was not used for defined time, and the
> >>>> path-query for each neigh.
> >>>> if the path-query failed the packets for specific neigh are kept in
> >>>> the neigh queue, but only if there are no more than
> >>>> IPOIB_MAX_PATH_REC_QUEUE, and the neigh is still kept for ever (let's
> >>>> assume CM connected that was stopped without any notification with
> >>>> DREQ etc.)
> >>>> The only way to know that there is an unresolved neigh is by checking
> >>>> its queue, if it is full we can assume that this is an unresolved
> >>>> neigh otherwise it is resolved.
> >>>
> >>> That's not true.  Reread what I wrote above (I was specific when I
> >>> picked that command).  Ping -c 1 will only send one ping.  It will not
> >>> trip this test.  As I said, your test relies on a stream of packets, a
> >>> single packet to a gone neighbor will never cause it to get deleted.
> >>
> >> If you ping one time (ping -c 1) there is no problem at all, the neigh
> >> will be deleted by the GC anyway, because no (unresolved) packet
> >> updates the neigh validity and the GC will check the last time it was
> >> refreshed and since only one ping refreshed it long ago, it will be
> >> deleted. (the GC always running)
> >>
> >> the problem is when there are non stop traffic to that neigh. IMHO
> >> that test works for that.
> > 
> > Ok, that makes sense.
> 
> Sorry, in case it wasn't clear, I grabbed this patch now (although I
> reworded the commit message significantly).

Thank you,
I truly appreciate your help.

> 
> 




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-07 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-04 12:15 [PATCH rdma-rc 0/7] IPoIB and IB core fixes for 4.7 Leon Romanovsky
     [not found] ` <1465042524-25852-1-git-send-email-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-04 12:15   ` [PATCH rdma-rc 1/7] IB/core: Fix query port failure in RoCE Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]     ` <1465042524-25852-2-git-send-email-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-06 15:43       ` Steve Wise
     [not found]         ` <CALq1K=LuBvTEygAeUW1wuwzQLffGHn=+KWtnx67op+nj9ybegw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <CALq1K=LuBvTEygAeUW1wuwzQLffGHn=+KWtnx67op+nj9ybegw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07  7:22             ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-04 12:15   ` [PATCH rdma-rc 2/7] IB/IPoIB: Don't update neigh validity for unresolved entries Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]     ` <1465042524-25852-3-git-send-email-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-05 21:10       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <CAJ3xEMgYKnVh4JECrCSBUYmyCr4s-zxWhMywMVTQPZswLvF61A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-06 23:59           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]             ` <42668994-5666-f5b3-8d38-4c452f0cc70f-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07  6:01               ` Erez Shitrit
     [not found]                 ` <CAAk-MO9gUtqZHKq+7xaHLkJRM_T-DgF0wOCFuykre9=0VUBbQw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 13:48                   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                     ` <27852e30-765c-012a-b54b-f5ba096121d4-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 14:32                       ` Erez Shitrit
     [not found]                         ` <CAAk-MO-wPkMtyCsCBEo5yKktKitsh4EQG2m=naenSuzc+EjoSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 14:43                           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                             ` <5fc6bf69-ff7e-d94f-fbfe-46a42ee1e22d-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 14:50                               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                 ` <99eb8d42-95f2-6899-b427-b6258db5e44b-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 16:20                                   ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2016-06-04 12:15   ` [PATCH rdma-rc 3/7] IB/IPoIB: Fix race between ipoib_remove_one to sysfs functions Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]     ` <1465042524-25852-4-git-send-email-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07  7:31       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <CAJ3xEMh_Pg2Kkp6yHx2OUJMokn0HX8Jd9Q0bcsB50KfTAcP1Gw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 10:45           ` Erez Shitrit
     [not found]             ` <CAAk-MO_9P2vVJS_RXrqUPx224Re9sjifug+hfxVGN4Ze5tYhSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 20:22               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                 ` <CAJ3xEMj-5Aet518M6N=3fGRT06YXWPSm-vDVL5iqRbiiRTbH-Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-08  7:01                   ` Erez Shitrit
     [not found]                     ` <CAAk-MO-idYZ9fCGY6GYhDavTQSGh+BhOpBjzgGX5Jw7KDtLecQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-08  7:29                       ` Or Gerlitz
2016-06-04 12:15   ` [PATCH rdma-rc 4/7] IB/core: Fix removal of default GID cache entry Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-04 12:15   ` [PATCH rdma-rc 5/7] IB/IPoIB: Disable bottom half when dealing with device address Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-04 12:15   ` [PATCH rdma-rc 6/7] IB/core: Fix incorrect array allocation Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]     ` <1465042524-25852-7-git-send-email-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-06 23:53       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]         ` <85e56121-5911-37f4-2ac3-a1af561d5a7a-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07  7:16           ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]             ` <20160607071621.GB3663-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 13:43               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                 ` <97ef54ca-d3c4-f294-4bb7-4422ae25dde4-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 16:23                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-07  8:26           ` Mark Bloch
     [not found]             ` <VI1PR05MB1391BC017005F864E1DAE3C0D25D0-79XLn2atqDP8GeyK7vyn2tqRiQSDpxhJvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 13:46               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                 ` <14b30d87-6f70-a7bb-14ea-e5152ce545bf-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07 13:56                   ` Mark Bloch
2016-06-04 12:15   ` [PATCH rdma-rc 7/7] IB/core: Initialize sysfs attributes before sysfs create group Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-07  0:02   ` [PATCH rdma-rc 0/7] IPoIB and IB core fixes for 4.7 Doug Ledford
     [not found]     ` <302ea695-7b9f-7c94-4930-acdb77ae8649-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-07  7:18       ` Leon Romanovsky

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