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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Matan Barak <matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tal Alon <talal-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Haggai Eran <haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Majd Dibbiny <majd-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC ABI V1 4/8] RDMA/core: Add support for custom types
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:49:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160720174905.GL21460@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9727f6e6-47fd-fb0a-537f-6264e8d742a9-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Matan Barak wrote:

> But how would you know if rdma-cm is loaded and available? Don't we want to
> have a decent query interface rather than iterating through sysfs?
> I agree that it could be lower priority than the rest.

1) 'loaded available' I think you will agree we have a fairly bad user
   experience when it comes to autoloading modules. If we have one fd,
   and the core of that FD is part of the ib_core module that is
   pulled in on driver load then the a request for an API segment (eg uverbs,
   rdma_cm) can now actually trigger a module load, just like net does
   for PF's. So we actually get to a better, saner, place.

2) Yes, an in-band query interface makes much more sense than
   schlepping around sysfs. That could be done in the ioctl, or maybe
   via netlink, but as you say, lower priority.

> I meant moving to /dev/rdma_uapi, but when you fopen the device and get a
> fd, you could either have fd->NULL or fd->single_rdma_dev mapping.
> It's a little bit simpler, however, not that much from just doing 1:N
> mapping.

A major point of the unified interface is to sanely support rdma_cm
when working with multiple devices, so I'd expect 1:N is the only
reasonable option for that interface..

Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-20 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-30 13:39 [RFC ABI V1 0/8] SG-based RDMA ABI Proposal Matan Barak
     [not found] ` <1467293971-25688-1-git-send-email-matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-30 13:39   ` [RFC ABI V1 1/8] RDMA/core: Export RDMA IOCTL declarations Matan Barak
     [not found]     ` <1467293971-25688-2-git-send-email-matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 19:12       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20160712191256.GA8206-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 19:43           ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-30 13:39   ` [RFC ABI V1 2/8] RDMA/core: Move uobject code to separate files Matan Barak
     [not found]     ` <1467293971-25688-3-git-send-email-matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 19:15       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20160712191507.GB8206-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 19:38           ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-07-13 14:34           ` Matan Barak
2016-06-30 13:39   ` [RFC ABI V1 3/8] RDMA/core: Refactor IDR to be per-device Matan Barak
     [not found]     ` <1467293971-25688-4-git-send-email-matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 19:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20160712192933.GD8206-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 19:48           ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-30 13:39   ` [RFC ABI V1 4/8] RDMA/core: Add support for custom types Matan Barak
     [not found]     ` <1467293971-25688-5-git-send-email-matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 19:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20160712192345.GC8206-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 14:44           ` Matan Barak
     [not found]             ` <081a02c0-0650-d0c2-494c-19a64b83cbc1-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 16:39               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20160713163924.GA19657-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 16:57                   ` Matan Barak
     [not found]                     ` <0959d391-75fb-75e8-ef2e-9d8c06b1b96f-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 17:21                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                         ` <20160713172116.GC19657-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14  5:30                           ` Matan Barak
     [not found]                             ` <5fdae959-5ab2-ee17-e36e-3642ddd3e6ce-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 16:41                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <20160714164121.GA2046-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-19 14:05                                   ` Matan Barak
     [not found]                                     ` <a1fcb1a7-0028-329a-d34a-ca8b52323916-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-19 20:36                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20160719203609.GD16042-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-20  8:01                                           ` Matan Barak
     [not found]                                             ` <9727f6e6-47fd-fb0a-537f-6264e8d742a9-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-20 17:49                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2016-07-14  6:30                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-06-30 13:39   ` [RFC ABI V1 5/8] RDMA/core: Introduce add/remove uobj from types Matan Barak
2016-06-30 13:39   ` [RFC ABI V1 6/8] RDMA/core: Add new ioctl interface Matan Barak
2016-06-30 13:39   ` [RFC ABI V1 7/8] RDMA/core: Change locking of ib_uobject Matan Barak
     [not found]     ` <1467293971-25688-8-git-send-email-matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 17:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20160713171657.GB19657-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14  7:59           ` Matan Barak
     [not found]             ` <6ae1a553-408c-723a-93a2-3d46d952ce35-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 17:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20160714170051.GB2046-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-19 15:16                   ` Matan Barak
     [not found]                     ` <b47386f4-fdb5-d24b-dbc6-9b5e18be6bf9-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-19 20:44                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                         ` <20160719204456.GF16042-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-20  7:54                           ` Matan Barak (External)
     [not found]                             ` <5c6e6a5d-9fde-a31f-1038-dce9e09662c4-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-20 17:56                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-06-30 13:39   ` [RFC ABI V1 8/8] RDMA/{hw, core}: Provide simple skeleton to IOCTL interface Matan Barak

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