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From: "Vishwanathapura, Niranjana" <niranjana.vishwanathapura@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 02/10] IB/hfi-vnic: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) Bus driver
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:26:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161121232629.GA67988@knc-06.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161121213930.GA30111@obsidianresearch.com>

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 02:39:30PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 01:30:17PM -0800, Vishwanathapura, Niranjana wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:04:45PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> >On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 02:42:10PM -0800, Vishwanathapura, Niranjana wrote:
>> >>+HFI-VNIC DRIVER
>> >>+M:	Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>
>> >>+M:	Niranjana Vishwanathapura <niranjana.vishwanathapura@intel.com>
>> >>+L:	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
>> >>+S:	Supported
>> >>+F:	drivers/infiniband/sw/intel/vnic
>> >
>> >This is either a net driver or a ULP, no idea why it should go in this
>> >directory!?
>> >
>> >It sounds like an ethernet driver, so you should probably put it
>> >there...
>> >
>>
>> The hfi_vnic is an Ethernet driver. It is similar to ULP like ipoib, but
>> instead it is Ethernet over Omni-path here.
>> The VNIC Ethernet (hfi_vnic) driver encapsulates Ethernet packets in an
>> Omni-path header.
>> The hfi_vnic Ethernet driver do not access the HW. It interfaces with HFI1
>> driver which sends/receives Omni-Path encapsulated Ethernet frames from HW.
>> Also, the VNIC control path driver (VEMA) is an IB MAD agent which should be
>> under drivers/infiniband/.. .
>> Putting the VNIC Ethernet driver and the VNIC control driver together under
>> a single module (hfi_vnic.ko) provided a simpler interface between them.
>>
>> So, we have put the driver under drivers/infiniband/sw/intel for two reasons:
>> a) We have VNIC control driver (VEMA) which is an IB mad agent.
>> b) hfi_vnic Ethernet driver is dependent on HFI1 driver for sending/receving
>> Omni-path encapsulated Ethernet packets from HW.
>
>Sounds like this driver belongs under net/ someplace to me.
>
>NAK on drivers/infiniband/sw/ at least - that dir is only for HCA
>drivers.
>

I did not see any example IB mad agent outside drivers/inifiniband folder.
I did see some netdev drivers outside the net/ folder (like ipoib and 
drivers/infiniband/hw/nes/).
The hfi_vnic Ethernet driver is entirely a soft driver without any HW access.
Also, any interface changes between hfi_vnic and the HFI driver makes it 
difficult to manage if they are under two subsystems/maintainers.
So drivers/infiniband is probably more approriate for this driver.

We have 'rdmavt' and 'soft-roce' drivers under drivers/infiniband/sw/ folder 
which are soft drivers similar to hfi_vnic. So we decided to put 'hif_vnic' 
under there.
Other places under drivers/infiniband where we can put this driver are,
drivers/infiniband/ulp/hfi_vnic
drivers/infiniband/hw/hfi_vnic

>> >>+/* hfi_vnic_bus_init - initialize the hfi vnic bus drvier */
>> >>+static int hfi_vnic_bus_init(void)
>> >>+{
>> >>+	int rc;
>> >>+
>> >>+	ida_init(&hfi_vnic_ctrl_ida);
>> >>+	idr_init(&hfi_vnic_idr);
>> >>+
>> >>+	rc = bus_register(&hfi_vnic_bus);
>> >
>> >Why on earth do we need this? Didn't I give you enough grief for the
>> >psm stuff and now you want to create an entire subystem hidden away!?
>> >
>> >Use some netlink scheme to control your vnic like the rest of the net
>> >stack..
>> >
>>
>> The hfi_vnic_bus is only abstracting the HW independent functionality (like
>> Ethernet interface, encapsulation, IB MAD interface etc) with the HW
>> dependent functionality (sending/receiving packets on the wire).
>> Thus providing a cleaner interface between HW independent hfi_vnic Ethernet
>> and Control drivers and the HW dependent HFI1 driver.
>
>That doesn't explain anything, sound like you don't need it so get rid
>of it.
>
>> There is no other User interface here other than the standard Ethernet
>> interface through network stack.
>
>Good, then this isn't needed, because it doesn't provide a user interface.
>

Can you explain what exactly you are asking to get rid of here and why?

>> #ls /sys/bus/hfi_vnic_bus/devices/
>>    hfi_vnic_ctrl_00         /* control device for HFI instance 0 */
>>    hfi_vnic_00.01.00        /* first VNIC port on HFI instance 0, port 1 */
>
>Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-21 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-18 22:42 [RFC 00/10] HFI Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42 ` [RFC 05/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC statistics support Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42 ` [RFC 06/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC MAC table support Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found] ` <1479508938-63799-1-git-send-email-niranjana.vishwanathapura-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 01/10] IB/hfi-vnic: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) documentation Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 02/10] IB/hfi-vnic: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) Bus driver Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-19 19:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-21 21:30       ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-21 21:39         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-21 23:26           ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana [this message]
     [not found]             ` <20161121232629.GA67988-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-21 23:31               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20161121233118.GA31132-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-22  1:53                   ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-22 17:04                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-11-22 19:49                       ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                         ` <20161122194918.GA69241-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-22 23:04                           ` Christoph Lameter
2016-11-23  0:53                             ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-23  0:06                         ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]                       ` <20161122170407.GE3956-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-23  0:05                         ` ira.weiny
2016-11-23  0:49                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20161123004932.GA13598-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-24  0:08                               ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                                 ` <20161124000825.GA73280-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-24 16:15                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20161124161545.GA20818-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25  2:13                                       ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                                         ` <20161125021350.GA74946-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-25 19:05                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20161125190509.GB16504-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29  6:31                                               ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                                                 ` <20161129063106.GB84990-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 16:19                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                     ` <20161129161950.GB742-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 16:44                                                       ` Hefty, Sean
2016-11-29 16:50                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                           ` <20161129165009.GA3167-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-01  7:39                                                             ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-29  6:29                                       ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
     [not found]                                         ` <20161129062938.GA84990-wPcXA7LoDC+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-29 16:21                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20161129162113.GC742-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-01  7:41                                               ` Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 03/10] IB/hfi-vnic: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) netdev driver Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 04/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC Ethernet Management (EM) structure definitions Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 07/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC Ethernet Management Agent (VEMA) interface Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 08/10] IB/hfi-vnic: VNIC Ethernet Management Agent (VEMA) driver Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42   ` [RFC 10/10] IB/hfi1: VNIC SDMA support Vishwanathapura, Niranjana
2016-11-18 22:42 ` [RFC 09/10] IB/hfi1: Virtual Network Interface Controller (VNIC) support Vishwanathapura, Niranjana

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