From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Hefty,
Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
Benjamin Drung
<benjamin.drung-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
"Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: rdma-core 12 breaks libibverbs ABI
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 09:22:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170127162220.GA31362@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41e74ed7-fd8d-89cf-2c79-b99a8d786fac-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 09:32:51AM -0500, Doug Ledford wrote:
> On 1/26/2017 8:17 PM, Hefty, Sean wrote:
> >> - Ship libibverbs.rpm with the updated driver and matched libibverbs
> >> This is pretty easy, I probably would recommend this.
> >
> > This has issues if there are multiple providers present. Maybe
> > that doesn't happen in non-testing environments. I wonder if the
> > distros would agree with this approach.
>
> I don't know how much I would rely on the belief that mixed environments
> don't happen outside of testing.
Yes, I've heard many complaints in production in this area.
As it stands today the changes to libibverbs in vendor trees are too
extensive, the only way to resolve them is to merge the vendors
patches into one source tree and build a custom release. I think
rdma-core will make that much simpler.
Making the ABI private or public doesn't really help things either
way, as far as I can tell. Remember the stable ABI is upstream, not
in a vendor tree, so don't expect a random vendor libibverbs to work
with any other providers, even today! They might link, but based on
what I've seen they will be subtly broken.
Ideally vendors will get their stuff upstream and a site could choose
to just use upstream rdma-core instead of a vendor tree.
I would still suggest vendors shipping libibverbs.rpm as their update
is and reasonable and easy approach for their simple users.
Jason
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-26 15:55 rdma-core 12 breaks libibverbs ABI Benjamin Drung
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2017-01-26 17:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170126171325.GA16562-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-26 17:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20170126173548.GA15006-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-26 18:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170126180926.GB20330-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-26 18:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20170126181113.GA8679-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-26 18:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170126182753.GA5056-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-26 20:38 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0E132B-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-26 21:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-26 20:23 ` Leon Romanovsky
[not found] ` <20170126202330.GX6005-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-26 23:53 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0E15AD-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 1:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170127010452.GA7826-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 1:17 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0E1609-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 14:32 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <41e74ed7-fd8d-89cf-2c79-b99a8d786fac-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-27 16:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2017-01-31 18:37 ` Coulter, Susan K
[not found] ` <A4803088-726E-4B88-B421-CE1969B6E25B-K3XgeB3KlJxL3NSqSJqx7PIbXMQ5te18@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-31 20:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-27 21:16 ` Weiny, Ira
2017-01-31 12:23 ` Benjamin Drung
[not found] ` <1485865383.4257.10.camel-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-31 15:06 ` Benjamin Drung
[not found] ` <1485875171.4257.18.camel-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-31 17:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-31 16:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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