From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Alex Rosenbaum
<rosenbaumalex-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
"leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org"
<leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Yishai Hadas <yishaih-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] libibverbs IB device hotplug support
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:44:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170301004449.GA13114@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3389d831-c135-b326-4b96-5f2a746de5ac-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 04:47:05PM -0500, Doug Ledford wrote:
> > I don't think that we should introduce an asych context into libibverbs.
>
> Why not?
Generally, I dislike the idea of running threads from libraries,
particularly libraries like ibverbs. So many apps get no benefit from
the thread, but it sits there connected to udev..
But aside from that, threads create races, and in this case if the
hidden thread has to run to get the up to date device list, then the
application has to synchronize with it to get the up to date
information.
This is practically problematic because one of the areas we need to
fix is rdma-cm which is already getting a kind of new-device
notification from kernel messages that are not synchronized with udev
or any other thread.
In this case I think the simple solution is the most correct one - run
readdir on every call to ibv_get_devices and do set-interesection with
the internal list before returning the result. Easy, simple locking,
no races to worry about.
We probably also need to add some retries for opening /dev/uverbsXX
based on sysfs to really solve all the races...
Jason
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2017-02-27 16:08 [RFC] libibverbs IB device hotplug support Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-02-27 18:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2017-02-27 22:11 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-02-27 22:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2017-02-28 7:56 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-02-28 21:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-28 15:48 ` Doug Ledford
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2017-02-28 16:32 ` Liran Liss
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2017-02-28 21:47 ` Doug Ledford
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2017-03-01 0:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
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2017-03-01 18:00 ` Hefty, Sean
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2017-03-01 18:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-03-01 21:47 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-03-01 22:07 ` Doug Ledford
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2017-03-01 22:32 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-03-02 12:48 ` Doug Ledford
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2017-03-02 16:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-03-01 23:18 ` Hefty, Sean
2017-03-01 21:56 ` Doug Ledford
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2017-03-01 22:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-03-01 22:34 ` Alex Rosenbaum
2017-03-01 0:10 ` ira.weiny
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2017-03-01 21:21 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-03-01 22:17 ` Weiny, Ira
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2017-03-01 22:38 ` Alex Rosenbaum
2017-03-01 21:57 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-03-01 22:15 ` Weiny, Ira
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2017-03-01 22:42 ` Alex Rosenbaum
2017-03-01 23:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2017-03-02 13:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-03-02 16:08 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0ED3C6-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 12:31 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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