From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Hefty,
Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Alex Rosenbaum
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"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
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<leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Yishai Hadas <yishaih-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] libibverbs IB device hotplug support
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 15:23:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170301222320.GA2820@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cad3d2c6-0c98-9f58-a3bb-81823103bd76-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 04:56:50PM -0500, Doug Ledford wrote:
> isn't a new device in the list already, then great too. Because the
> initial implementation proposal left if up to the app to determine
> how/when to check for a new device, there was never any guarantee that
> whatever triggered the app to look for the new device meant that it was
> ready to be used in sysfs
No, that isn't true. The kernel guarentees that sysfs is fully setup
before it can deliver any sort of event, by any channel, to an
app. This includes rdma connection establish, uevents for udev,
netlink notifications/etc.
> and would be found by the re-reading of the sysfs directory. So
> whatever race might be present in my proposed implementation would
> also be present in the original implementation.
Since the kernel strongly orders things, there is no race in Alex's
suggestion.
All apps using rdma-cm have to cope with hot plug transparently. An
app can 'all device' bind and get an incomming connection from the
kernel on a newly plugged device. This must work without having the
app do any new steps or introducing races between the rdma-cm channel
and some other channel hidden in verbs.
> Personally I would use a thread in the library that would block on
> inotify events from the sysfs directory.
sysfs does not support inotify.
Jason
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-27 16:08 [RFC] libibverbs IB device hotplug support Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-02-27 18:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2017-02-27 22:11 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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2017-02-27 22:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170227223600.GA1526-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 7:56 ` Alex Rosenbaum
[not found] ` <CAFgAxU8KkrOS6aib4ykf8vj1sQFGK_oMW=fX3vZ2X2_r3ryDVA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 21:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-28 15:48 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <1488296882.86943.214.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 16:32 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <HE1PR0501MB28123E8F342607E2C2CA4DD9B1560-692Kmc8YnlIVrnpjwTCbp8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 21:47 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <3389d831-c135-b326-4b96-5f2a746de5ac-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 0:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170301004449.GA13114-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 18:00 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0ECDC6-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 18:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-03-01 21:47 ` Alex Rosenbaum
[not found] ` <CAFgAxU9vObaW4O+byEJ5pV1Ofou4cd05HHWWPC7iTJshyk+LdA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 22:07 ` Doug Ledford
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2017-03-01 22:32 ` Alex Rosenbaum
[not found] ` <CAFgAxU_-jbAoOR2XMYfSgbDMn7FnrthudZJLgeNNTzb9GEUXrg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-02 12:48 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <467c0560-8de7-42e5-14b9-178c367874d2-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-02 16:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-03-01 23:18 ` Hefty, Sean
2017-03-01 21:56 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <cad3d2c6-0c98-9f58-a3bb-81823103bd76-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 22:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2017-03-01 22:34 ` Alex Rosenbaum
2017-03-01 0:10 ` ira.weiny
[not found] ` <20170301001023.GA3001-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 21:21 ` Alex Rosenbaum
[not found] ` <CAFgAxU-Vf6RLEo8N=oya0X+WbneRHE1xa_-5GY+TEqo1wyzpow-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 22:17 ` Weiny, Ira
[not found] ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510E67C5CA80-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 22:38 ` Alex Rosenbaum
2017-03-01 21:57 ` Alex Rosenbaum
[not found] ` <CAFgAxU_i+5FtBkdf=t5vdQAvBqDt9aKsFJbAKGN5YWQQ9w-c2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 22:15 ` Weiny, Ira
[not found] ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510E67C5CA68-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 22:42 ` Alex Rosenbaum
2017-03-01 23:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20170301230743.GC2820-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-02 13:22 ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-03-02 16:08 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0ED3C6-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 12:31 ` Alex Rosenbaum
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