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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri-rHqAuBHg3fBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jiri Benc <jbenc-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger
	<stephen-OTpzqLSitTUnbdJkjeBofR2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Ariel Almog <ariela-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dennis Dalessandro
	<dennis.dalessandro-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Ram Amrani <ram.amrani-YGCgFSpz5w/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Bart Van Assche
	<Bart.VanAssche-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi-NQWnxTmZq1alnMjI0IkVqw@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux RDMA <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Netdev <netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC iproute2 0/8] RDMA tool
Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 09:33:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170507063329.GL22833@mtr-leonro.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170506104826.GD2017@nanopsycho>

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On Sat, May 06, 2017 at 12:48:26PM +0200, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Fri, May 05, 2017 at 03:17:54PM CEST, leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 08:54:57AM +0200, Jiri Benc wrote:
> >> On Thu,  4 May 2017 21:02:08 +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> >> > In order to close object model, ensure reuse of existing code and make this
> >> > tool usable from day one, we decided to implement wrappers over legacy sysfs
> >> > prior to implementing netlink functionality. As a nice bonus, it will allow
> >> > to use this tool with old kernels too.
> >>
> >> This sounds wrong. We don't support legacy ioctl interface for the 'ip'
> >> command, either. I think rdma should be converted to netlink first and
> >> the new tool should only use netlink.
> >
> >RDMA in slightly different situation than "ip" tool was. "ip" was implemented
> >when tools like ifconfig existed. It allowed to old and new systems to be
> >configured to some degree. In RDMA community, there are no similar tools like
> >"ifconfig". Implementation in netlink-only interface will leave old systems without
> >common tool at all.
> >
> >As an upstream-oriented person, I personally fine with that, but anyway would
> >like to get wider agreement/disagreement on that, before removing sysfs
> >parsing logic from the rdmatool.
>
> I tend to agree with Jiri Benc. I fear that supporting sysfs + netlink
> api later on for the same things will make the code unnecessary complex.
> Also, the legacy sysfs will most likely stay there forever so there will
> be no actual motivation to port the existing things to the new netlink
> api.
>
> For the prototyping purposes, I belive that what you did makes perfect
> sense. But for the actual mergable version, my feeling is that we need
> to strictly stick with new netlink rdma interface and just forget about
> the old sysfs one. Distros would have to backport the new kernel
> rdma netlink api.

Thanks,
It looks like that most of the comments are in favor of netlink-only
solution.

>
> Yes, this will be little bit more painful at the beginning, but in the
> long run, I believe it will save some severe headaches.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-07  6:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-04 18:02 [RFC iproute2 0/8] RDMA tool Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 18:02 ` [RFC iproute2 2/8] rdma: Add dev object Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 18:02 ` [RFC iproute2 3/8] rdma: Add link object Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 18:02 ` [RFC iproute2 5/8] rdma: Add memory object Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 18:02 ` [RFC iproute2 6/8] rdma: add stubs for future objects Leon Romanovsky
     [not found] ` <20170504180216.7665-1-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 18:02   ` [RFC iproute2 1/8] rdma: Add basic infrastructure for RDMA tool Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 18:02   ` [RFC iproute2 4/8] rdma: Add IPoIB object Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 18:02   ` [RFC iproute2 V1 7/8] man: rdma.8: Document objects and commands Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 18:02   ` [RFC iproute2 8/8] rdma: Add link capability parsing Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-05  6:54   ` [RFC iproute2 0/8] RDMA tool Jiri Benc
2017-05-05 13:17     ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]       ` <20170505131754.GH22833-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-06 10:48         ` Jiri Pirko
2017-05-07  6:33           ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2017-05-07 21:02             ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-08 13:04             ` Knut Omang
2017-05-04 18:10 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-05-04 18:25   ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]     ` <20170504182542.GD22833-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 18:30       ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]         ` <1493922625.2692.8.camel-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 18:45           ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 19:26             ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]               ` <2dee6cde-0406-b101-0fe6-c1f6de7c1b1a-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 19:42                 ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                   ` <20170504194242.GF22833-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 15:55                     ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]                       ` <b82f5d3d-f198-3410-af85-85befc14a2ec-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-09  7:03                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 20:45                 ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                   ` <1493930758.3041.231.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05  0:05                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-05 18:38             ` Bart Van Assche
2017-05-06 10:40   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-05-06 14:40     ` Bart Van Assche
2017-05-07  6:14       ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-07 10:20       ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]         ` <20170507102046.GA1889-6KJVSR23iU488b5SBfVpbw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 15:19           ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]             ` <1494256767.2591.3.camel-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 15:33               ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-05-08 16:19             ` Andrew Lunn

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