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* [ANNOUNCE] Open Fabrics Verbs Working Group (OFVWG) meeting this week - 08/01/17 at 11:00PDT
@ 2017-07-30 20:00 Liran Liss
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From: Liran Liss @ 2017-07-30 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Agenda: Extend RDMA Device Memory concepts to kernel Verbs

Device memory allows RDMA applications to allocate buffers on the device, and use them as a source/target of subsequent RDMA data transfers.
A few weeks ago we discussed the motivation and primary use-cases for user applications.

This week, we will extend the model to kernel use-cases and review a proposal for the corresponding kernel Verbs.

Please find the concall details below.
--Liran


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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] Open Fabrics Verbs Working Group (OFVWG) meeting this week - 08/01/17 at 11:00PDT
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@ 2017-07-31  7:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
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From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2017-07-31  7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Liran Liss
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	'linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org'

Please present any kernel API idea on this list before doing phone
calls on it.
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* RE: [ANNOUNCE] Open Fabrics Verbs Working Group (OFVWG) meeting this week - 08/01/17 at 11:00PDT
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@ 2017-07-31 16:37       ` Paul Grun
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  2017-07-31 20:29       ` Liran Liss
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From: Paul Grun @ 2017-07-31 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Hellwig, Liran Liss
  Cc: 'ofvwg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org',
	'linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org'

Why?  

Why shouldn't ideas like this be discussed in any relevant forum, particularly one which is dedicated to this very purpose?  Certainly it ultimately needs to be discussed on linux-rdma, but I can see no reason for shutting down discussion beforehand on a relevant forum.

-Paul

>-----Original Message-----
>From: linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org [mailto:linux-rdma-
>owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Christoph Hellwig
>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:47 AM
>To: Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
>Cc: 'ofvwg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org' <ofvwg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>; 'linux-
>rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org' <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
>Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Open Fabrics Verbs Working Group (OFVWG) meeting
>this week - 08/01/17 at 11:00PDT
>
>Please present any kernel API idea on this list before doing phone calls on it.
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* RE: [ANNOUNCE] Open Fabrics Verbs Working Group (OFVWG) meeting this week - 08/01/17 at 11:00PDT
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@ 2017-07-31 17:05           ` Christopher Lameter
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From: Christopher Lameter @ 2017-07-31 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Grun
  Cc: Christoph Hellwig, Liran Liss,
	'ofvwg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org',
	'linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org'

In oder to have a fruitful discussion its useful to have some time to
think about it before talking about it. Otherwise a lot of time may be
spent on questions while people process the new ideas.

It also allows those on the mailing list that do not have time to dial in
to participate.

On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Paul Grun wrote:

> Why?
>
> Why shouldn't ideas like this be discussed in any relevant forum, particularly one which is dedicated to this very purpose?  Certainly it ultimately needs to be discussed on linux-rdma, but I can see no reason for shutting down discussion beforehand on a relevant forum.
>
> -Paul
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org [mailto:linux-rdma-
> >owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Christoph Hellwig
> >Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:47 AM
> >To: Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
> >Cc: 'ofvwg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org' <ofvwg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>; 'linux-
> >rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org' <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
> >Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Open Fabrics Verbs Working Group (OFVWG) meeting
> >this week - 08/01/17 at 11:00PDT
> >
> >Please present any kernel API idea on this list before doing phone calls on it.
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* RE: [ANNOUNCE] Open Fabrics Verbs Working Group (OFVWG) meeting this week - 08/01/17 at 11:00PDT
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  2017-07-31 16:37       ` Paul Grun
@ 2017-07-31 20:29       ` Liran Liss
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From: Liran Liss @ 2017-07-31 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Hellwig
  Cc: 'ofvwg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org',
	'linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org'

> From: Christoph Hellwig [mailto:hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org]
> Please present any kernel API idea on this list before doing phone calls on it.

Hi Christoph,

At this stage, we just wanted to discuss the concepts and listen to considerations and concerns as a head start.
Obviously, the actual API and implementation would be discussed on the list following an initial RFC/patch-set...

Basically, we want to follow the same lines of the user-space API described in [1], with additional kernel user-cases.
Thanks,
--Liran

[1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-rdma/msg49702.html

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* Re: [Ofvwg] [ANNOUNCE] Open Fabrics Verbs Working Group (OFVWG) meeting this week - 08/01/17 at 11:00PDT
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@ 2017-07-31 22:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
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From: Jason Gunthorpe @ 2017-07-31 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Liran Liss
  Cc: Christoph Hellwig,
	'linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org',
	'ofvwg-ZwoEplunGu1OwGhvXhtEPSCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org'

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 08:29:51PM +0000, Liran Liss wrote:
> > From: Christoph Hellwig [mailto:hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org]
> > Please present any kernel API idea on this list before doing phone calls on it.
> 
> Hi Christoph,
> 
> At this stage, we just wanted to discuss the concepts and listen to considerations and concerns as a head start.
> Obviously, the actual API and implementation would be discussed on the list following an initial RFC/patch-set...
> 
> Basically, we want to follow the same lines of the user-space API
> described in [1], with additional kernel user-cases.

Is there an upstream kernel user of this feature in the works?

Jason
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