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From: "hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>
To: Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>
Cc: "linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib/scatterlist: Provide a DMA page iterator
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 19:31:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190115183133.GA12350@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41d0616e95fb48942404fb54d82249f5700affb1.camel@vmware.com>

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 06:03:39PM +0000, Thomas Hellstrom wrote:
> In the graphics case, it's probably because it doesn't fit the graphics
> use-cases:
> 
> 1) Memory typically needs to be mappable by another device. (the "dma-
> buf" interface)

And there is nothing preventing dma-buf sharing of these buffers.
Unlike the get_sgtable mess it can actually work reliably on
architectures that have virtually tagged caches and/or don't
guarantee cache coherency with mixed attribute mappings.

> 2) DMA buffers are exported to user-space and is sub-allocated by it.
> Mostly there are no GPU user-space kernel interfaces to sync / flush
> subregions and these syncs may happen on a smaller-than-cache-line
> granularity.

I know of no architectures that can do cache maintainance on a less
than cache line basis.  Either the instructions require you to
specifcy cache lines, or they do sometimes more, sometimes less
intelligent rounding up.

Note that as long dma non-coherent buffers are devices owned it
is up to the device and the user space driver to take care of
coherency, the kernel very much is out of the picture.
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-15 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-04 22:35 [PATCH] lib/scatterlist: Provide a DMA page iterator Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-05  2:37 ` kbuild test robot
2019-01-05  3:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-10 23:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-14  9:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-15 14:17     ` Thomas Hellstrom
2019-01-15 14:24       ` Christian König
2019-01-15 15:20         ` hch
2019-01-15 18:03           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2019-01-15 18:31             ` hch [this message]
2019-01-15 19:13               ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-15 20:58                 ` hch
2019-01-16  7:09                   ` Thomas Hellstrom
2019-01-16  7:28                     ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-16 10:14                       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-01-16 16:06                       ` hch
2019-01-16 16:36                         ` Daniel Stone
2019-01-15 21:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-16 10:40         ` Christian König
2019-01-16 16:11         ` hch
2019-01-16 17:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-17  9:30             ` hch
2019-01-17 10:47               ` Thomas Hellstrom
2019-01-17 15:54               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-12 18:27 ` Shiraz Saleem
2019-01-12 18:37   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-12 19:03     ` Shiraz Saleem
2019-01-14  9:46       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-14 22:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-16 17:32         ` Shiraz Saleem
2019-02-07 23:23 ` Sakari Ailus

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