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To: Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib/scatterlist: Provide a DMA page iterator
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 19:31:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190115183133.GA12350@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41d0616e95fb48942404fb54d82249f5700affb1.camel@vmware.com>
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 06:03:39PM +0000, Thomas Hellstrom wrote:
> In the graphics case, it's probably because it doesn't fit the graphics
> use-cases:
>
> 1) Memory typically needs to be mappable by another device. (the "dma-
> buf" interface)
And there is nothing preventing dma-buf sharing of these buffers.
Unlike the get_sgtable mess it can actually work reliably on
architectures that have virtually tagged caches and/or don't
guarantee cache coherency with mixed attribute mappings.
> 2) DMA buffers are exported to user-space and is sub-allocated by it.
> Mostly there are no GPU user-space kernel interfaces to sync / flush
> subregions and these syncs may happen on a smaller-than-cache-line
> granularity.
I know of no architectures that can do cache maintainance on a less
than cache line basis. Either the instructions require you to
specifcy cache lines, or they do sometimes more, sometimes less
intelligent rounding up.
Note that as long dma non-coherent buffers are devices owned it
is up to the device and the user space driver to take care of
coherency, the kernel very much is out of the picture.
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-04 22:35 [PATCH] lib/scatterlist: Provide a DMA page iterator Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-05 2:37 ` kbuild test robot
2019-01-05 3:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-10 23:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-14 9:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-15 14:17 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2019-01-15 14:24 ` Christian König
2019-01-15 15:20 ` hch
2019-01-15 18:03 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2019-01-15 18:31 ` hch [this message]
2019-01-15 19:13 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-15 20:58 ` hch
2019-01-16 7:09 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2019-01-16 7:28 ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-16 10:14 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-01-16 16:06 ` hch
2019-01-16 16:36 ` Daniel Stone
2019-01-15 21:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-16 10:40 ` Christian König
2019-01-16 16:11 ` hch
2019-01-16 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-17 9:30 ` hch
2019-01-17 10:47 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2019-01-17 15:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-12 18:27 ` Shiraz Saleem
2019-01-12 18:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-12 19:03 ` Shiraz Saleem
2019-01-14 9:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-14 22:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-16 17:32 ` Shiraz Saleem
2019-02-07 23:23 ` Sakari Ailus
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